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    Quote Originally Posted by SkStu View Post
    where would a selection of all "meh's" place a person?
    Fianna Fail - the party with none and every ideology.
    If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkStu View Post
    where would a selection of all "meh's" place a person?
    In that case you'd be a Mehderate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dahamsta View Post
    Their argument is that it /is/ the point. The questions aren't taken in isolation, they're contextualised against other "extreme" answers. So the questions aren't "stupidly phrased", they're very specifically phrased - and lack "wiggle room" - to achieve that end.
    They're contextualised against answers to questions on totally unrelated issues. For one example, they say one of the questions which helps decide if someone is an 'authoritarian' is the one about astrology, because (according to them) if you believe in astrology you believe in fate and so you're of a more determinist and therefore authoritarian bent. But that's total horlicks, someone could believe in astrology (which in my experience is far more prevalent with political liberals, but that's by the by) and be in favour of abortion on demand up to birth, legalisation of all drugs etc. yet because of political compass's way of doing things, the quiz wouldn't be able to determine that. It'd just know that that person believed in astrology and thought that abortion should be legal in exceptions other than the 'life for a life' one, as well as supporting the legalisation of cannabis for private use, which is a fairly moderate position although rarely spoken of by politicians. Based on that, I imagine political compass might characterise them as a mild authoritarian or mild liberal. It's distorting and needs more questions or propositions on a range of issues IN MY OPINION.
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    <shrug> I don't agree. It's a guide at best, a toy at worst; it should be treated with the same credibility as Wikipedia -- useful, but [citation needed].

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    Quote Originally Posted by dahamsta View Post
    <shrug> I don't agree. It's a guide at best, a toy at worst; it should be treated with the same credibility as Wikipedia -- useful, but [citation needed].
    completely off topic, that made me think of this xkcd strip: http://xkcd.com/285/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macy View Post
    Fianna Fail - the party with none and every ideology.
    Or, in other words, the National party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fly View Post
    Or, in other words, the National party.
    The Natural party you mean. Of government that is!
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    Economic Left/Right: -2.38
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.95

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    Economic Left/Right: -7.25
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.95
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    Left -2.75
    Libertarian - 1.95

    In the company of Gandi and Nelson Mandella but not as far Left.

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    Not surprised how close Hitler and Thatcher were and didn't she have one ball aswell???

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    Came across this old thread while looking for something else, and decided to take the survey again.

    7 years ago:
    Quote Originally Posted by osarusan View Post
    Economic Left/Right: -5.62
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.10
    Today:
    Economic Left/Right: -5.25
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.97
    Well well well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBoss View Post
    Economic Left/Right: -2.75
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.46
    Today
    Economic Left/Right: -4.5
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.59


    Seems I have changed a bit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by passinginterest View Post
    Economic Left/Right: -4.12
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.90

    Looks almost identical to the Dalai Lama on the chart. Not the worst company I suppose.
    Now it seems Iíve gone even more liberal leftie.

    Economic Left/Right: -6.25
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.46

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    Interesting
    Didn't do it originally, which is a pity but I am leaning a little to the right these days, albeit i am an anarchist at heart!

    My Political Compass
    Economic Left/Right: 1.75
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.31

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    Economic Left/Right: -4.25
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.05

    Interesting that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    Economic Left/Right: -4.00
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.10

    But mostly what I believe in is the Harps and nothing but the Harps.
    Am drifting more left and libertarian. Am basically Gandhi.

    Economic Left/Right: -6.75
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.23

    A lot of the economic questions ask specifically about trusting corporations which maybe can skew it? Generally would consider myself a left leaning centrist, surprised to find myself so extreme here!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    Am drifting more left and libertarian. Am basically Gandhi.

    Economic Left/Right: -6.75
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.23

    A lot of the economic questions ask specifically about trusting corporations which maybe can skew it? Generally would consider myself a left leaning centrist, surprised to find myself so extreme here!
    Maybe it shows how the notion of where the centre lies is somewhat skewed in our political culture and particularly in the UK and US. Corbyn would be comfortably centre-left in, say, Scandinavian political culture, yet he's seen as "hard left" (and was formerly regarded to be "unelectable" until that pseudo-analysis could no longer be sustained) in the UK media. The likes of Trump and the Republicans in the US are seen as centre-right there, whilst the Democrats are portrayed as centre-left; on this side of the Atlantic, both of those main US parties would be on the right with the Republicans pushing near far-right territory.

    I think the real centre - arguably an average of where most people would sit - is much further to the left than our media and politicians like to admit or portray in their quest to persuade the public of the "normality", "neutrality" or "wider social benefit" of right-wing policies that primarily serve either themselves or the economic elite who support/fund them.

    I remember doing this questionnaire years ago, but can't remember the specific results and I don't think I posted them here, or can't find them anyway. I do think I recall being in Gandhi's corner though, which is where I seem to find myself again:

    Economic Left/Right: -8.38
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.28

    So I've clearly learnt nothing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BonnieShels View Post
    I am a slightly libertarian super leftie
    (Economic Left/Right: -8.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.79)
    I never would have thought so!
    So in essence... I haven't a clue.

    A nationalist unionist socialist democrat maybe?

    http://www.politicalcompass.org/test
    Economic Left/Right: -8.5
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.38

    That's a change and a half.
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    I've done this a few times. from memory i tend to float around the centre in economically, but am super liberal socially. I'll do it again now to see for the sake of interest, but I thought i would put my cards on the table before i did it
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