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    Economic Left/Right: -0.62
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.62

    I am a little bit more right wing than Gandhi.
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    Yup. Too soft for my own good probably.
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    Economic Left/Right: -6.75
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.64

    Sounds about right, much the same result as the last time I did this.

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    BonnieShels, please read the rules about quoting content from other sites.

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    Did this a while back and ended up not far from the Pope's position. A few years on, I'm a little bit more liberal but still basically the same:

    Economic Left/Right: -4.38
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.72

    Can I also say, some of the questions are stupidly worded. Like the one on abortion. There's no room for any wiggle room. Now, technically I'm not in favour of it only when there's a risk to the woman's life, I'd also add another couple of caveats like when there's a severe, incurable deformity to the child. But basically I'm against it so I had to click 'agree' on that question even though I didn't technically agree with the statement.

    Another dumb one is the first one which says something like 'if globalisation is inevitable, should it primarily serve humanity or corporations?' Of course it should primarily serve humanity, why wouldn't anyone agree with that?

    To be honest, I think the questionnaire is a bit rigged to give people liberal-biased results and make them think politicians are so far away from their positions. Actually, I think the positions of politicians on the compass are pretty out there; Gordon Brown is not a right-winger by any stretch of the imagination (incidentally, they might want to update that to give the positions of current leaders like Cameron, Clegg, Obama etc. instead of Bush and Brown.)
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    if anything, it serves to highlight that it isn't all that easy to pigeon-hole people into particular belief sets. like the man says, we are all different.
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    I agreee with Cymro there but hey it was just a wee bit of fun. What is interesting is the difference in a lot of people's perception of themselves. However as has been said here already, the fact that it's a Yank site will mean that it's X and Y axes are unfit for European consumption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cymro View Post
    some of the questions are stupidly worded.
    No they're not. You haven't read the FAQ so you're not qualified to comment on the methodology. For example, there isn't meant to be wiggle room in the case of abortion, in this context.

    Oh, and in the case of humanity v corporations, the answer is "company directors and shareholders". Seriously, if you're that oblivious of the selfishness of (some, but particularly large) business operators, you need to open a newspaper. Bhopal is a good place to start your education, but if you'd like something a bit more contemporary, try BP and the Deepwater clusterfeck.

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    Economic Left/Right: -6.75
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.85

    I now consider myself Gandhi-approved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dahamsta View Post
    No they're not. You haven't read the FAQ so you're not qualified to comment on the methodology. For example, there isn't meant to be wiggle room in the case of abortion, in this context.

    Oh, and in the case of humanity v corporations, the answer is "company directors and shareholders". Seriously, if you're that oblivious of the selfishness of (some, but particularly large) business operators, you need to open a newspaper. Bhopal is a good place to start your education, but if you'd like something a bit more contemporary, try BP and the Deepwater clusterfeck.
    Actually, I have read the FAQ, read it years ago when I first took the quiz. Their argument is basically that they have extreme and moderate propositions and they try to gauge your opinions based on what answers you put. If you agree with an extreme proposition, they take it you have extreme views on that issue and they bump up your score accordingly.

    My argument is that that misses the point. You need to have both extreme and moderate propositions on various political issues to accurately gauge someone's view because if you just have one set of propositions then you distort someone's true view as I illustrated with the examples I gave.
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    I think that to expect a survey consisting of 40-50 statements and responses of choice conducted anonymously over the internet to accurately gauge anybody's political positions with great detail is expecting too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osarusan View Post
    I think that to expect a survey consisting of 40-50 statements and responses of choice conducted anonymously over the internet to accurately gauge anybody's political positions with great detail is expecting too much.
    Why? But let's say for the sake of argument that you're right.

    My solution: they could either increase the number of propositions to include extreme and moderate positions on each issue, or they could simply scrap the idea of propositions combined with '(strongly) agree/(strongly) disagree' and give questions such as: 'The closest statement to my view on _________ is:' and then give four or five choices for each one.

    It's not as if they're limited to the number of questions they can ask/propositions they can put forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cymro View Post
    they could simply scrap the idea of propositions combined with '(strongly) agree/(strongly) disagree' and give questions such as: 'The closest statement to my view on _________ is:' and then give four or five choices for each one.
    That suggestion would mean that the survey would have exactly the same problems as you say it does now - people being asked to align themselves to a position on an issue based on a choice from a limited number of responses, none of which accurately describes what their view is.
    Last edited by osarusan; 03/01/2011 at 10:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osarusan View Post
    That suggestion would mean that the survey would have exactly the same problems as you say it does now - people being asked to align themselves to a position on an issue based on a choice from a limited number of responses, none of which accurately describes what their view is.
    The point is that such a system would give people more choice. It's impossible to cater for every viewpoint, but it shouldn't just be a choice between supporting or rejecting one extreme statement. And I'm pretty sure that, given enough choices, people would be able to find one which almost exactly matches their view.
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    It just needs a "meh" option is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cymro View Post
    My argument is that that misses the point.
    Their argument is that it /is/ the point. The questions aren't taken in isolation, they're contextualised against other "extreme" answers. So the questions aren't "stupidly phrased", they're very specifically phrased - and lack "wiggle room" - to achieve that end.

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    Most surbveys of this type (personality tests etc) have several questions asking the same question in different ways. Its a built in check to see your views are consistent.

    Always gives me a chuckle to see people not agreeing with the findings of tests/surveys based on their own pre-conceptions of themselves
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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    It just needs a "meh" option is all.
    where would a selection of all "meh's" place a person?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Always gives me a chuckle to see people not agreeing with the findings of tests/surveys based on their own pre-conceptions of themselves
    Indeed. I'm much more of a leftist than I thought.

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