Celtic Cup thread

**tetsujin1979** · 02/02/2011, 9:20 AM

Originally Posted by ifk101

I agree but for the want of trying to avoid repetition, the players are organised and disciplined to how Trapattoni wants us to play the game. Sitting back and giving away the initiative is something we have seen many a time under Trapattoni. Cyprus for example had 60-70% of the ball the last time they played against us in Dublin.

according to this - http://soccernet.espn.go.com/match?id=236143&cc=5739 - it was 55%/45% in our favour

**paul_oshea** · 02/02/2011, 9:21 AM

Its always hard to be tets in the auld arguements as he always has the stats to back it up

I still think you can have a lot of the ball and not be in control though. A lot of that depends on where you have the ball.

**ifk101** · 02/02/2011, 9:48 AM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

according to this - http://soccernet.espn.go.com/match?id=236143&cc=5739 - it was 55%/45% in our favour

Fair enough. Didn't seem like that at the time.

**Stuttgart88** · 02/02/2011, 10:51 AM

It never does watching Ireland!

**gilberto_eire** · 02/02/2011, 12:14 PM

I don't remember Darron Gibson starting that game

**Jicked** · 02/02/2011, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by gilberto_eire

I don't remember Darron Gibson starting that game

Trap threw him in to start a qualifier before most people had ever seen him play for United, or had heard much about him. Just like the idea that we were hammered in that game, the idea that Trap is never willing to try out young players is a bit wide of the mark.

**Dodge** · 02/02/2011, 12:50 PM

Gibson made his debut for Ireland while playing in the Belgian 2nd division

**Noelys Guitar** · 02/02/2011, 1:58 PM

Trap picked Gibson (poor game) ahead of Andy Reid for non-footballing reasons in that Cyprus match. And his choice of Gibson has not worked out very well our else he would be starting ahead of Green, Whelan and Fahey.

**Stuttgart88** · 02/02/2011, 2:22 PM

Gibson is not industrious enough for Trap (or anyone!). I'm a big fan of Andy Reid but he was pretty awful against Cyprus when we drew 1-1 with them, after he had played beautifully against Germany.

**SkStu** · 02/02/2011, 3:15 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Gibson is not industrious enough for Trap (or anyone!). I'm a big fan of Andy Reid but he was pretty awful against Cyprus when we drew 1-1 with them, after he had played beautifully against Germany.

thats a very Trappatoni turn of phrase...

**Closed Account** · 02/02/2011, 4:33 PM

Early Twitter reports the final 22 squad as

Given
Westwood

O'Shea
Clark
Coleman
Dunne
St Ledger
S Kelly
O'Dea

Wilson
Gibson
Whelan
Green
Lawrence
Treacy
Duff
McCarthy

Keane
Walters
Doyle
Long
Best

(Dropped/Injured: Foley, McShane, Kilbane; McGeady, Fahey, Hunt; Keogh, Stokes)
This will be fun......

**Closed Account** · 02/02/2011, 4:37 PM

Originally Posted by joe_denilson

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...les-squad.html

Okay, so the 29 man squad is preliminary. So we've to lose 6 players.
I'd drop 2 from D, M and F's, (O'Dea, McShane, Treacy, Green, Keogh, Stokes)

Why did they name 22 if they could name 23?
Anyway

Injured: Foley, McShane, Hunt
Match/Preseason: Kilbane, McGeady
Dropped: Keogh

Standby: Fahey, Stokes

So Fahey gets dropped for McCarthy. and Stokes was just the odd man out in too many strikers. Doesn't fit into Traps system really.

**tetsujin1979** · 02/02/2011, 4:47 PM

Stokes is playing against Rangers on Sunday, only two days previous, might have something to do with it

**SkStu** · 02/02/2011, 4:48 PM

what a weak spined, lily livered manager we have in charge of us, adding McCarthy after a bit of pressure from some foot.ie regulars. We're doomed i tells ya, doomed!

Seriously though can we clarify why the dropped players were dropped? (injury or droppage)

**tetsujin1979** · 02/02/2011, 4:54 PM

Hunt definitely has a calf problem. and won't be playing tonight

<EDIT>

Celtic playing Rangers in the cup on Sunday, Birmingham playing West Ham
probably the reasons for the demotion of Fahey and Stokes.

Keane needs the game time, I guess?

**SkStu** · 02/02/2011, 5:04 PM

Fahey instead of Green (FFS!) and Ward in as a defender and i would be realtively happy with that squad, truth be told. Performance is still everything however.

Manager P W D L %W %D %L
Staunton 17 6 6 5 35.29 35.29 29.41
Trapattoni 28 10 11 7 35.71 39.29 25.00

**tetsujin1979** · 02/02/2011, 5:29 PM

Foley is due back tonight against Bolton, but he's missed the last 5 games in a row with an ankle problem. Probably best not to risk aggravating it.

**rebelmusic** · 02/02/2011, 6:54 PM

11 i'd hope for

Given
O'Shea Dunne Sledge Clark
Coleman McCarthy Wilson/Whelan Duff
Keane Long

11 we'll get

Given
O'Shea Dunne Sledge Clark
Lawrence Green Whelan Duff
Keane Long/Doyle

Only thing that will annoy me is Green really.

One thing to note though. This squad has the least wingers of any trap squad. So maybe he's planning a different approach?

**Stuttgart88** · 02/02/2011, 9:56 PM

I'd say it's more like that McGeady is in his winter break and Hunt is injured.

**TrapAPony** · 02/02/2011, 10:07 PM

McShane, Keogh & Kilbane finally omitted. Green will hopefully be next. Andrews, McGeady, S.Hunt, Meyler, Cunningham & Foley yet to come back. Things looking up from a squad perspective at last.