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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    The Welsh are going to outnumber the Northern Ireland supporters by a 2:1 ratio in the Aviva on Friday night.

    We've sold 48 tickets, and Wales 100.
    That is kind of funny alright. What a shambles, this whole thing.

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    Safe enough to say this whole thing/competition/tournament is going to be binned after this? Would a wholesale reformatting save it? Round robin ala rugby 6 nations?
    " I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"

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    It depends on how much money it makes. I'm guessing the big money is in the TV rights and Sky seem to be promoting it pretty well. In fact, with so many people staying home, the viewing figures will probably be better than expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie View Post
    Safe enough to say this whole thing/competition/tournament is going to be binned after this? Would a wholesale reformatting save it? Round robin ala rugby 6 nations?
    I think the 6 nations format would work better, yea.

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    Hmm, 'Ingerland' & France, no thanks.
    Italia would be a useful addition though.

    And of course the Irish team in the 6 nations, has a more enlightened approach!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    Hmm, 'Ingerland' & France, no thanks.
    Italia would be a useful addition though.

    And of course the Irish team in the 6 nations, has a more enlightened approach!
    I think you've misunderstood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie View Post
    Safe enough to say this whole thing/competition/tournament is going to be binned after this? Would a wholesale reformatting save it? Round robin ala rugby 6 nations?
    There was rumours that England might host it in two years to coincide with their 150th anniversary
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    Will it go to goal difference if we draw with Scotland?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    There was rumours that England might host it in two years to coincide with their 150th anniversary
    England are looking to restart the home nations tournament, which would mean it's essentially this tournament only it would be England instead of you guys in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awec View Post
    England are looking to restart the home nations tournament, which would mean it's essentially this tournament only it would be England instead of you guys in it.
    How do you know this? Including us would bring a degree of competition to the tournament considering the crappy performances we have seen from Wales and Nursery Ireland so far.

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    Theres no saving it however you dress it up. Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales are trashy undesirable teams that nobody wants to watch. Nobody cares if we win or lose against these teams, nobody wants to see them, its a gigantic failure and I don't know how they expected anything else.

    We should be glad to see the back of it and lets never speak of it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    Hmm, 'Ingerland' & France, no thanks.
    Italia would be a useful addition though.

    And of course the Irish team in the 6 nations, has a more enlightened approach!
    Quote Originally Posted by awec View Post
    I think you've misunderstood.
    I'm certain of it. I meant the same four teams playing in a simple 3-round tournament played over the available international dates without the nonsense we're seeing this week.

    Quote Originally Posted by Murfinator View Post
    Theres no saving it however you dress it up. Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales are trashy undesirable teams that nobody wants to watch. Nobody cares if we win or lose against these teams, nobody wants to see them, its a gigantic failure and I don't know how they expected anything else.

    We should be glad to see the back of it and lets never speak of it again.
    Who's this "nobody" you refer to? Irish people? Neutrals? All three of those teams, with their first 11 available, are easier on the eye than us (Scotland v Czech notwithstanding) a lot of the time.

    In attendance terms the CNC is a failure because the format is wrong -that is having a "host" venue where all six games would be played. It assumed supporters of all teams would turn up regardless of their teams material interest in the competition. I don't blame Welsh supporters for example who will apparently only be travelling in their low dozens and at great expence to watch Wales in a neutral venue with the odds stacked against them when theres a perfectly good stadium in the middle of Cardiff they could've used.

    The format also illustrated that once you dent the participating teams first choice elevens the squads are too thin to absorb withdrawls, injuries and no-shows. This is exacerbated when they're made play two of the games in a week at the end of the season -in Wales case two games in 48 hours. That's plain daft.
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    I think the Nations Cup has been a great way of looking at new guys coming through with a certain edge of competition to it.
    Although there has been a serious gulf in class.
    But if we got Stephen Ward, Simon Cox, Kevin Foley and Keith Treacy out of it then I'm pretty happy
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    Would prefer more games like the Uruguay one recently. Good match, a good test and I think people would start showing up in bigger numbers if that was the case. The friendly circuit used to be great, a big deal.....how has it gone to the dogs to such an extent? More powerful club game? Saw some great games back in the 80s/90...West Germany, USSR, Yugoslavia....even those multitude of Wales games were decent....

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    Quote Originally Posted by gastric View Post
    How do you know this? Including us would bring a degree of competition to the tournament considering the crappy performances we have seen from Wales and Nursery Ireland so far.
    Because the ROI are not a home nation and didn't play in the last home nations cup (which we won ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie View Post
    I'm certain of it. I meant the same four teams playing in a simple 3-round tournament played over the available international dates without the nonsense we're seeing this week.
    Same, and the home team play at their own home stadium so all matches aren't in the same city.

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    Realistically, all the other teams would be way more up for a game with England than with us. England would organise the thing better too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    Realistically, all the other teams would be way more up for a game with England than with us. England would organise the thing better too.
    It's Vauxhall that are pushing it. They are the new sponsors of all the home nations and they want the competition brought back.

    I imagine Carling aren't too happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awec View Post
    Because the ROI are not a home nation and didn't play in the last home nations cup (which we won ).
    Was/is not the defined Home Nations England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifk101 View Post
    Was/is not the defined Home Nations England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Home_Championship


    Out of interest, does anyone think we'll see another Nations Cup after this one? It's every 2 years right, so that would be 2013?

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