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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge
    I think you'll find most schools in England aren't segregated at all Liam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corkharps
    You're entitled to your opinion,but I find it very sad!
    Im not one bit surprised you being from Donegal and all.

    Catholic/Republican and proud !
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    Quote Originally Posted by eoinh
    why shouldnt he?

    The catholic church does the same all over the world.
    exactly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peadar
    Paisley is a hate merchant!
    This isn't about converting anyone, it's about having a swipe at the other side. No one who exudes such hate can purport to be a Christian!
    The Pope is as much of a hate merchant as paisleyis, he's just better at disguising it. Just because people's prejuidices make them think its ok to attack other sctions of the community because of sexual preference or some such thing.

    Paisleyis scum. Total and utter scum. But the Catholic Church has perpetrated hate violence and **** knows what else on the world on a much larger scale. Any person with any sense would have nothing to do with either group

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    Quote Originally Posted by Éanna
    The Pope is as much of a hate merchant as paisleyis, he's just better at disguising it.


    But the Catholic Church has perpetrated hate violence and **** knows what else on the world on a much larger scale.
    I haven't researched your claims Éanna but I'm certainly not disagreeing with you. I don't think I've stated anywhere that the Roman Catholic church were exempt from wrong doing. They're certainly responsible for a lot of what was wrong with the Republic of Ireland.

    It's funny that you refer to the Pope and Paisley in the same post.
    They're both very similar in that the seem to refuse to die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Éanna
    exactly.


    The Pope is as much of a hate merchant as paisleyis
    What a statement !!! That is the biggest pile of crap I ever read in my entire life.

    The Pope advocates peace, now Paisley on the other hand formed the Ulster Resistance group who were prepared to shoot any catholic. Anyone who claims the pope is the anti-christ needs serious mental help. The word up here is that Paisley was never 'nutted' because he was a great promotion for the republican cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dortie
    The word up here is that Paisley was never 'nutted' because he was a great promotion for the republican cause.
    There is a theory that the sinner's were happy enough, and help facilitate, the "unacceptable face of unionism" being elected as the largest party in the North for exactly the same reason.
    If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conor74
    Don't think he's as big a hate merchant as Paisley, but certainly the Pope and the Church have a heck of a lot to answer for including what in my opinion amounts to a homophobic campaign as well as being leader of an organisation that, while it may have done a lot of good, has also protected those who have preyed on children...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dortie
    Im not one bit surprised you being from Donegal and all.

    Catholic/Republican and proud !

    I assume you mean roman catholic and proud

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    Quote Originally Posted by Éanna
    exactly.

    The Pope is as much of a hate merchant as paisley is, he's just better at disguising it. Just because people's prejuidices make them think its ok to attack other sctions of the community because of sexual preference or some such thing.
    Daft. First off, the sexual preference thing is not the Pope's personal view. These are the teachings of the Christian church. Secondly, I don't think he's ever done anything to encourage violence. He's campaigned all his life for peace.


    Quote Originally Posted by Éanna
    But the Catholic Church has perpetrated hate violence and **** knows what else on the world on a much larger scale. Any person with any sense would have nothing to do with either group
    The Catholic church isn't perfect, but then neither are CCFC fans. Should we avoid both the church and Turners Cross?
    The Pope is the head of a 2000 year old group with millions of members. Of course you are going to be able to pick nasty things out of such a long history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dortie
    What a statement !!! That is the biggest pile of crap I ever read in my entire life.

    The Pope advocates peace, now Paisley on the other hand formed the Ulster Resistance group who were prepared to shoot any catholic. Anyone who claims the pope is the anti-christ needs serious mental help. The word up here is that Paisley was never 'nutted' because he was a great promotion for the republican cause.
    Seconded 100%
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    Quote Originally Posted by dortie
    What a statement !!! That is the biggest pile of crap I ever read in my entire life.

    The Pope advocates peace, now Paisley on the other hand formed the Ulster Resistance group who were prepared to shoot any catholic. Anyone who claims the pope is the anti-christ needs serious mental help. The word up here is that Paisley was never 'nutted' because he was a great promotion for the republican cause.
    Ah, yes, trot out the old 'Ulster Resistance' reference - that'll take the bad look of all those atrocities committed in the name of 'republicanism'.

    Paisley fromed the 'UR' in the wake of the 1985 A-I Agreement, when paranoia reached bizarre levels. His intentions were not to "shoot any catholic" but to arm 'Unionists', if a doomsday scenario prevailed (like I said, 'bizarre levels'), and in the event of those republican 'heroes' seizing any initiative during this uncertainity.

    Paisley walked from the 'UR' shortly afterwards when the usual dark-glassed, denim-clad suspects got involved.
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    And while we're talking abotu religion..............
    Who would Jesus support?
    (don't take it seriously-I go to church every Sunday-there are worse things about )
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    I dont think Jesus would support a foreign team. Hes a Beitar Jerusalem fan i believe.

    Celtic play too much high balls and ping pong football to even take a passing interest. Not a man for crosses is our Lord.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dortie
    What a statement !!! That is the biggest pile of crap I ever read in my entire life.

    The Pope advocates peace, now Paisley on the other hand formed the Ulster Resistance group who were prepared to shoot any catholic. Anyone who claims the pope is the anti-christ needs serious mental help. The word up here is that Paisley was never 'nutted' because he was a great promotion for the republican cause.
    They both claim to be christians yet don't manage to behave like it. The Catholic Church is about as Christian as Osama Bin Laden, but if people want to believe in it fine by me. I have no time for religion of any sort- its been responsible for more war murder and misery than anything else humankind has ever created- it should all be banned

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    Quote Originally Posted by Éanna
    it should all be banned
    Yea coz that wouldnt ever lead to a war!

    People use Religion as an excuse. Christ's message to mankind was a message of peace, to turn the other cheek.

    Then again maybe we should be ban football too because it causes riots and started a war once in South America.

    The Roman Catholic Church is a bloody big organisation. It has bad apples, then again so does Cork City FC, that mean that all of Cork City FC is scum?

    How does the Pope not behave like a Christian?
    Oh no not them again

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    Quote Originally Posted by SÓC
    Yea coz that wouldnt ever lead to a war!

    People use Religion as an excuse. Christ's message to mankind was a message of peace, to turn the other cheek.
    What a horrible message to teach. It's been taken completely out of context by Christian churches. Churches use it to teach people to be humble, meek, afraid to stand up for themselves. Not suggesting that people should use violence against violence, but 'turn the other cheek' implies that you should do nothing. What a load of crap! It is any wonder why the Church's word has gone unquestioned for centuries. People are taught to accept authority and let themselves be ruled regardless of the consquences.
    Spot on about people using religion as an excuse for their actions. The Bible, Koran, Torah, etc can be used to excuse just about anything under the sun.

    Quote Originally Posted by SÓC
    Then again maybe we should be ban football too because it causes riots and started a war once in South America
    What? Gon explain.

    Quote Originally Posted by SÓC
    How does the Pope not behave like a Christian?
    How much wealth does the Vatican have? Why does the Pope have such a lavish lifestyle? Was he elected? Can anyone get rid of him if he does a crap job? Why does he support capitalism? (how many times in the Bible does Jesus tell rich men to sell everythng they own and follow him?) Why does he work with fascists like Thatcher and Reagan?
    Hardly a shining example of how to live as a Christian now.

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    Turning the other cheek doesnt isnt to be taken literally but the fact is that The Holy Father the Pope has spoken out against Wars of all kind.

    Quote Originally Posted by brendy_éire
    What? Gon explain.
    Cant remember the details but a football match between two South Americian countries sparked a war.


    Quote Originally Posted by brendy_éire
    How much wealth does the Vatican have? Why does the Pope have such a lavish lifestyle? Was he elected? Can anyone get rid of him if he does a crap job? Why does he support capitalism? (how many times in the Bible does Jesus tell rich men to sell everythng they own and follow him?) Why does he work with fascists like Thatcher and Reagan?
    Hardly a shining example of how to live as a Christian now.
    True the Vatican has wealth but then again so do many people. The difference is the Vatican does re-direct a lot of its resources towards places like Africa and the likes. You dont even have to leave Ireland. Look at all the Schools, hospitals and homes the Catholic Church runs, providing a service that the State would be rightly screwed with out.

    Anyway Brendy I'd say your just still bitter over JP's role in bringing down the Iron Curtain
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    Quote Originally Posted by SÓC
    True the Vatican has wealth but then again so do many people. The difference is the Vatican does re-direct a lot of its resources towards places like Africa and the likes. You dont even have to leave Ireland. Look at all the Schools, hospitals and homes the Catholic Church runs, providing a service that the State would be rightly screwed with out.
    True, the Church does give money to the likes of schools, etc, but the Vatican has immense wealth. It's a complete contradiction of Jesus's teaching.

    Quote Originally Posted by SÓC
    Anyway Brendy I'd say your just still bitter over JP's role in bringing down the Iron Curtain
    Nah, it was far was from I want, and was doomed because it's economic policies anyway.
    Still though, the Pope has no right to get involved in the political affairs of any state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SÓC


    Cant remember the details but a football match between two South Americian countries sparked a war.


    Methinks it was just an excuse. Honduras v El Salvador was the game.

    Theres a small article HERE about it.

    There was also the Turners Cross battle of May 2004. Marked by the launching of an indiscriminate missle attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brendy_éire

    How much wealth does the Vatican have? Why does the Pope have such a lavish lifestyle? Was he elected? Can anyone get rid of him if he does a crap job? Why does he support capitalism? (how many times in the Bible does Jesus tell rich men to sell everythng they own and follow him?) Why does he work with fascists like Thatcher and Reagan?
    Hardly a shining example of how to live as a Christian now.
    Elected? WHat the hell does that have to do with being Christian? Was Jesus elected? Who was going to fire Jesus if he did a crap job? The Pope is chosen by the Church and IF you believe in all that stuff, then it's God's will.

    As for working with Reagan and Co., try achieving anything on a global scale without the USA and see how far you get.

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