Paisley Trying To Convert Catholics...

**Peadar** · 18/05/2004, 10:54 AM

The North�s Free Presbyterian church has announced plans to send letters and CDs to 3,000 Catholic priests in Ireland in an effort to convert them.

DUP leader Ian Paisley, who founded the church, believes Catholicism is idolatry, that the mass is blasphemy and that the Pope is the anti-Christ.

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**Dodge** · 18/05/2004, 10:58 AM

best of luck to him...

**eoinh** · 18/05/2004, 11:06 AM

why shouldnt he?

The catholic church does the same all over the world.

**the 12 th man** · 18/05/2004, 11:20 AM

never met a priest that was christian eh.............
its enough to make the blood boil

**Peadar** · 18/05/2004, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by eoinh

why shouldnt he?

Paisley is a hate merchant!
This isn't about converting anyone, it's about having a swipe at the other side. No one who exudes such hate can purport to be a Christian!

**liam88** · 18/05/2004, 12:06 PM

"In 1956, Rev. Paisley abducted a 16 year old girl, Maura Lyons, who was in a dispute with her parents about joining the Free Presbyterian Church. He attempted to use her as an anti-Catholic propaganda stunt and would not inform police where she was. Paisley was later ordered in court never to go near the girl or her family again."

"DUP barrister Robert McCartney stated that "Paisley is a fascist who is more interested in an independent Ulster, a mini-Geneva run by a fifth-rate Calvin, than Union with Britain."

Imprisoned UDA leader Freddie Parkinson, in appeal for non-violence by Paisley: "I remember the paramilitary megalomaniac who beckoned us to follow him but who later abandoned us to be scored as common criminals.""

"Valerie Shaw, secretary of a Free Presbyterian church, discovered sexual abuse of boys at Kincora School by Paisley confidant William McGrath. She tried to get Paisley to give the matter his spiritual attention for years. When he did not, she left the church. Since then, no woman can hold official office in the church leadership."

Scum

**Macy** · 18/05/2004, 12:45 PM

And sure the Catholic Church can do no wrong liam. Imagine them effectively forcing kidnapping children into convents and "schools", covering up sexual abuse etc etc...

**Schumi** · 18/05/2004, 12:49 PM

I have no time for Paisley but how is his trying to convert ('save' in his mind, no doubt) Catholics any different from the Catholic Church converting natives in Africa? What particular form ancient superstition people subscribe to is of no interest to me, it's all bollock$ to me.

**Peadar** · 18/05/2004, 1:03 PM

Originally Posted by Macy

And sure the Catholic Church can do no wrong liam. Imagine them effectively forcing kidnapping children into convents and "schools", covering up sexual abuse etc etc...

This isn't about that Macy.
Liam shouldn't have dragged up old crap like that but lets not turn this into another debate about abuse.
Paisley's success is based on fear and in order to maintain that fear he needs to create as much tension as possible between his side and everyone else. This isn't about converting anyone, it's about generating conflict.

Originally Posted by Schumi

how is his trying to convert ('save' in his mind, no doubt) Catholics any different from the Catholic Church converting natives in Africa?

I don't think there's justification for that either.
If Paisley was interested in expanding his flock then why doesn't he target people from outside Christian religion?
He's not interested in anything that isn't controversial.

**Macy** · 18/05/2004, 1:08 PM

But it's only creating conflict and being controversial because everyone gets up on their high horse about.

Simple solution - he sends them to the catholic priests, every ignores it, priests bin/ recycle the letters and CD's. No controversy, no conflict, no hatred, no news story.

But no, instead we have/ will have a load of morally outraged catholics, most of whom don't regularly practice their "faith" in the first fookin place.

**corkharps** · 18/05/2004, 1:13 PM

He used to get the highest vote of any Euro MP! He and the Catholic Church trive on ignorance of each other,hence children are sent to different schools,play different sports etc etc etc. He's in his late eighties so he'll be dead soon,step forward that moderate,Willie McCrea!!

**eoinh** · 18/05/2004, 1:20 PM

In fairness to Paisley he does look after his constituents (even if you are a roman catholic).

It goes unreported (and there are very few R. catholics in his constituency) but if you go looking for help he will do his best. Apparently anyway.

**liam88** · 18/05/2004, 1:22 PM

Originally Posted by Conor74

Liam, you 3 or 4 paragraphs on Paisley were interesting.

But as Macy pointed out, if you were to start on about the Catholic Church you could be typing for the rest of your days and you won't have captured a fraction of the wrongs...

I'm a strong Catholic and going to stand by my views. The fact Paisley is an anti-Irish biggot seems to have flown over some peoples heads.
I have been a Catholic all my life and help at Church every Sunday (and some other days) I'm not going to back down-so no offence.
Anyway I'm used to people slagging off my religion (and my nationality for that matter)-I've lived in England for years

Catholicandproud

**eoinh** · 18/05/2004, 1:31 PM

Originally Posted by liam88

I'm a strong Catholic

Why, do you work out in a gym and say your prayers at the same time?

I assume when people here say they are Catholic they mean Roman Catholic?

**corkharps** · 18/05/2004, 1:31 PM

Liam, that would make him 'An Irish anti Irish biggot'

**S�C** · 18/05/2004, 1:32 PM

The very Rev. Ian his re-written parts of the Bible ffs

This man is not a Christian, then again either were a lot of the people involved in the Roman Catholic Church.

**Peadar** · 18/05/2004, 1:53 PM

Originally Posted by corkharps

He's in his late eighties so he'll be dead soon.

I watch as many of his TV appearances as possible in the hope that his hate will one day culminate in a massive and fatal heart attack and I�ll get to see it.
Thank God I don't have any religion or I may now live in fear of being struck down by lightening

As I said before, religion is the root of all evil!

**Dricky** · 18/05/2004, 1:55 PM

Originally Posted by S�C

The very Rev. Ian his re-written parts of the Bible ffs

This man is not a Christian, then again either were a lot of the people involved in the Roman Catholic Church.

He is the leader of a cult. he is using this again and again and again to get free press, that is the only reason he says these think, in reality he's a fat auld fart, the only way a fat auld fart can get on a paper is by coming out with ****. The editors of the paper should know better.

Ian P will be dead of auld age and after that no one will care...

His members list is dwindling and fast the hay days of the 60's are gone

**Dodge** · 18/05/2004, 1:59 PM

most religions thrive on fear so you can't single Paisley out on that one...

**brendy_�ire** · 18/05/2004, 1:59 PM

Ah sure hasn't Big Ian been at it for years?

Not much different from the Catholic Church in trying to convert people, aye. Have to say though, Paisley's a headcase. He believes he's from one of the lost tribes of Israel.

He describes alcohol as "the devil's buttermilk", protests against people playing sport on a Sunday, protests against gays, against Catholics and Muslims, complains that the Church of Ireland and the Presbyterian Church are "too papish".
But sure he's great craic to watch!