Setanta Cup 2011

**de bowez** · 05/04/2011, 3:40 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Yeah, his body language is always the same, regardless of whether he's 'up' for it or not. That never concerned me. But he can become disinterested prety quickly if he isn't involved in everything, and if he gets into tht funk, the whole game is lost to him. I think thats what happened him at the start of his Bohs career. Stuck on the wing he wasn't as involved as he felt he should be so he kinda gave up. LIkewise in 2009 for Pats, he gave up a little too quickly for my liking and didn't have a manager to motivate him

SOme might be happy to know that Coughlan is finally recovered from that assault, and is expected to sign back for Pats this week (nearly 11 months later)

Unfortunately for us/Quigley that Pats match was one of his few chances of starting up front for Bohs. Unbelievable talent when on form. I did think that the studs to ankle challenge on O'Brien last Friday was very similar to the Quigley/Coughlan one, luckily not as bad of an outcome.

**Quayman** · 05/04/2011, 7:25 PM

Squigs is going down in Dundalk folklore, hes getting us to the Setanta Cup final near enough all on his own with his goals!!! And to think he missed the easiest chance of the season, an open goal in the six yard box v Galway but can go and smack it in from 25-35 yards out!!

I think he finally realises that this really is his last chance to make a big impression for somebody across water to take him back over.

**harleyleeds** · 05/04/2011, 7:30 PM

will shamrock and/or sligo put out full teams or rest players figuring this is not such an important competition?

**Ezeikial** · 05/04/2011, 7:38 PM

Originally Posted by harleyleeds

will shamrock and/or sligo put out full teams or rest players figuring this is not such an important competition?

Cliftonville fan downgrades competition after home trouncing? Hmmm

**harleyleeds** · 05/04/2011, 7:40 PM

im a sligo rovers fan and i dont mean to downgrade anything . im genuinely asking what you think .

**Ezeikial** · 05/04/2011, 7:49 PM

Originally Posted by harleyleeds

im a sligo rovers fan and i dont mean to downgrade anything . im genuinely asking what you think .

Thanks for that. The Cliftonville crest as your avatar could lead one to believe.........

The prize money is decent in the Setanta compared to the league and I'd imagine that both Michael O'Neill and Paul Cooke will want to qualify for the final. Shamrock Rovers have such a large squad that they will always have a strong starting line-up. Sligo also have strength in depth.

Most of the fans of the winners of that semi-final will say Setanta is a great competition, while some on the losing side will say it's not important.

**sligoman** · 05/04/2011, 7:53 PM

Originally Posted by Ezeikial

Most of the fans of the winners of that semi-final will say Setanta is a great competition, while some on the losing side will say it's not important.

Well before we win/lose I'm saying it now. It's not a great/important competition. The money is a welcome bonus yes, but it's not that important that if we're knocked out it wont really matter. Obviously I'd like to win as I want Rovers to win every competition but if we don't win this, then so be it.

**harleyleeds** · 05/04/2011, 7:54 PM

i agree losing fans say that . what is the money? the crest is just cos i have a couple of good friends who i met at 2002 world cup who are clifs. i just switch over now and then .

**Dodge** · 05/04/2011, 7:56 PM

I think Sligo had the same attitude for last years' semi too. Close to full strength teams out but it clearly wasn't a 'do or die' attitude.

**sligoman** · 05/04/2011, 10:29 PM

Cameroon paper gives more coverage on the game than Irish ones

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**Rasputin** · 06/04/2011, 9:22 AM

Originally Posted by Dodge

I think Sligo had the same attitude for last years' semi too. Close to full strength teams out but it clearly wasn't a 'do or die' attitude.

Im nearly certain Dodge we had a very weakened team out against yee in the semi last year.
After being knocked out Cook went on record stating he wont ever do the same again and play such a weakened team in a competition we could have won.

**poster** · 06/04/2011, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by Rasputin

Im nearly certain Dodge we had a very weakened team out against yee in the semi last year.
After being knocked out Cook went on record stating he wont ever do the same again and play such a weakened team in a competition we could have won.

Kelly; Whelan, Davoren, Peers, Foran; Ryan, Marshall (Dillon 64�), Amond, Doyle (Blinkhorn 64�), McCabe, Doninger.

That was the first 11. Whelan, Marshall and Doninger were the 'weak' links.

**Dodge** · 06/04/2011, 10:10 AM

Cheers lads.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...268308333.html

A couple of quotes from the IT article perfectly back up Sligoman's claims (and indeed others) that not everyone views it as highly as Dundalk

Pete Mahon made four changes for the match, perhaps looking to shake things up a little in the wake of Friday’s narrow defeat by Drogheda but the absence of players like Vinny Faherty or, initially at least, Dave Mulcahy suggested the Dubliners do not view becoming all-Ireland champions as their main priority.

Paul Cook’s modifications to his starting line were even more comprehensive, with just four of the 11 who took the field in Bray at the weekend featuring from the outset.

**oriel** · 06/04/2011, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by Rover'n'out

Are the northern teams really that ****e or are they not taking the competition seriuosly?

When we were at Windsor for the first leg v Linfield, I said to my mate when we went 3-1 up 'this crowd would only be as good as about 6th in our PD' he replied 'Hang on a minute, we came 6th last year' !!!!

I did think before that only Glentoran and Linfield would be PD standard in our lge, their teams this year would suggest they might only be of mid table PD standard in LOI. Whatever about that, I can tell you for certain the teams in the IL Prem from 4th place downwards are probably similar in standard to our First Div. Their FD is not even worth commenting on.

Finally re Prize money, I think a lot of teams under estimated the value, for us, we will collect more just by getting to the final than if we finished the highest we can this year in the PD (in my view which is 3rd)

Dodge did make a good point though, a lot of our teams were simply unprepared due to pre season, I know we came back 2 weeks earlier, as we had Linfield first.

**harleyleeds** · 06/04/2011, 9:16 PM

still wondering what prize money is ,also where is final and why do you think 3rd is as good as you can do .

**oriel** · 07/04/2011, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by harleyleeds

still wondering what prize money is ,also where is final and why do you think 3rd is as good as you can do .

Prize money allocated as follows:
Winner: � 50,000
Runner-up: � 30,000
Defeated semi-finalists: � 15,000 each
Defeated Quarter Finalists: � 10,000 each
Teams defeated in Round 1: � 7,500 each

Final probably on in Tallaght (unless Cliftonville overturn a 1-3 scoreline) and yes, I would say 3rd would be the height for our team this season.

**harleyleeds** · 07/04/2011, 2:48 PM

wow that money is not to be sneezed at for sure so would wonder why any one would not want this . I would be surprised to see weakened teams out . would final be in tallaght even if shamrock make it?

**holidaysong** · 07/04/2011, 2:52 PM

It would have been great to have it in the Aviva but it won't be there due to the need to preserve the pitch for the Europa League final the following week. Setanta have given teams home advantage in the final before so I wouldn't see them stopping now.