Setanta Cup 2011

**Dunny** · 02/03/2011, 2:18 PM

Simply asking you to provide proof WW, whats wrong with that?

**marinobohs** · 02/03/2011, 2:26 PM

Originally Posted by Dunny

Simply asking you to provide proof WW, whats wrong with that?

Christs sake, I'd be amazed if there were not some sectarian chants (by a minority) on both sides given the teams and history around this fixture. So what ? Not justifying it in any way but harping on about it only encourages the morons responsible.

As regards the "somebody burned something" argument,

**sligoman** · 02/03/2011, 5:10 PM

If Bohs knock Portadown out, we're playing Cliftonville.

**Ezeikial** · 02/03/2011, 11:16 PM

Setanta Cup Quarter Finals:

Glentoran v Dundalk
Lisburn Distillery v Shamrock Rovers
Sligo Rovers v Portadown* or Cliftonville
Bohemians* or Cliftonville v Crusaders

* If Portadown beat Bohemians its Sligo against Portadown, if Bohemians win its Sligo against Cliftonville.

Last 4 predictions
Dundalk
Shamrock Rovers
Sligo
Crusaders

**baddebt** · 03/03/2011, 7:44 AM

Originally Posted by White Horse

Would monkey noises directed at a team of black players also be a "bit of banter"?

Should black players and fans just "get a life" too.

Your analysis of sectarianism in football is facile.

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..........................I was refer to the banter among rival groups of fans , not players
why would 1 set of fans make monkey noises towards another set of fans ,

**marinobohs** · 03/03/2011, 9:00 AM

Originally Posted by baddebt

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..........................I was refer to the banter among rival groups of fans , not players
why would 1 set of fans make monkey noises towards another set of fans ,

Acting the monkey ? APEING the english Danny Dyer wannabees ?

or maybe they just went banannas over some decision ?.

**Red Army** · 03/03/2011, 6:00 PM

I was looking at at site Irishultrasmovement.blogspot.com seems to be a fair bit of flares used so far by supporters I take the fines have been reduced?

**bullit** · 03/03/2011, 6:14 PM

Originally Posted by Red Army

I was looking at at site Irishultrasmovement.blogspot.com seems to be a fair bit of flares used so far by supporters I take the fines have been reduced?

Im not sure what the fines are in relation to the Setanta Cup but i know that Dundalk were warned about there future use after the Linfield V Dundalk match at Windsor Park.
Warning issued,but do Dundalk fans take heed ??

Moday night in Oriel after Dundalk score :

**Red Army** · 03/03/2011, 6:39 PM

I'm sure that's just the usual scaretactic trying to put lads off using them most likely. I reckon there will be a big increase in use of them this season in general.
Anyways what sort of teams are the Nordies putting out this year or are they taking it serious?

**Red Army** · 03/03/2011, 6:43 PM

Great photo btw Built. Full of passion

**bullit** · 03/03/2011, 6:49 PM

Originally Posted by Red Army

Great photo btw Built. Full of passion

Photos courtesy of DFC photographer David/Nigel Caldwell and more available on https://picasaweb.google.com/nigelca...aCupFeb282011#

**PartySaint** · 03/03/2011, 7:26 PM

Originally Posted by bullit

Im not sure what the fines are in relation to the Setanta Cup but i know that Dundalk were warned about there future use after the Linfield V Dundalk match at Windsor Park.
Warning issued,but do Dundalk fans take heed ??

Moday night in Oriel after Dundalk score :

There seems to be a random Shamrock Rovers fan in the middle of the shed

**bullit** · 03/03/2011, 7:46 PM

There seems to be a random Shamrock Rovers fan in the middle of the shed

We are a very welcoming club PartySaint

Has that message NOT gone out yet

**Red Army** · 03/03/2011, 8:17 PM

Yeah I heard Dundalk supporters had a banner at the start of the game welcoming Linfield to oriel park too

**Mr_Parker** · 03/03/2011, 8:40 PM

Originally Posted by Red Army

I'm sure that's just the usual scaretactic trying to put lads off using them most likely. I reckon there will be a big increase in use of them this season in general.

More than a scare tactic with a couple of clubs already on the first rung of the fines ladder.

RULE 22. SPECTATOR CONDUCT
1. The home club/team is liable for any improper conduct among all spectators, regardless of the question of culpable conduct or culpable oversight and depending on the situation, may be fined. Further sanctions may be imposed in the case of serious disturbances.

2. The visiting club/team is liable for improper conduct among its own group of spectators, regardless of the question of culpable conduct or culpable oversight and depending on the situation, may be fined. Further sanctions may be imposed in the case of serious disturbances. Supporters occupying the away sector of a stadium are regarded as the visiting supporters, unless proven to the contrary.

3. Improper conduct includes but is not limited to violence towards persons or objects, letting
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off incendiary devices, throwing missiles, use of smoke bombs, flares or fireworks, displaying insulting slogans in any form, uttering insulting sounds, racist behaviour or invading or encroaching onto the pitch.

4. The liability described in par. 1 and 2 also includes matches played on neutral grounds, especially during finals of competitions.

SANCTIONS

RULE 23. CULPABILITY
Unless otherwise specified, infringements are punishable regardless of whether they have been committed intentionally or negligently.

RULE 24. INVOLVEMENT
1. Anyone who intentionally takes part in committing an infringement, either as instigator or accomplice, is subject to disciplinary proceedings.
2. The disciplinary body shall take account of the degree of guilt of the party involved and may reduce a sanction accordingly. It shall not go below the minimum sanction applicable.

RULE 25. SANCTIONS APPLICABLE
1. The following sanctions are applicable only to natural persons:
a) caution;
b) expulsion;
c) match suspension;
d) ban from dressing rooms and/or substitutes� bench;
e) ban from entering a stadium;
2. The following sanctions are applicable only to legal persons:
a) playing a match without spectators;
b) playing a match on neutral territory;
c) ban on playing in a particular stadium;
d) annulment of the result of a match;
e) exclusion;
f) forfeit;

3. In addition to the sanctions listed above the following
sanctions are applicable to both natural and legal persons;
a) a warning;
b) a reprimand;
c) a fine;
d) the return of awards.

**Red Army** · 03/03/2011, 9:56 PM

Any list of rules which states uttering insulting sounds can't be taken serious.

**marinobohs** · 04/03/2011, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by Red Army

Yeah I heard Dundalk supporters had a banner at the start of the game welcoming Linfield to oriel park too

Yea, i heard from a work colleague that his cousins friends neighbours wifes, brother was at the match (first half anyway) and that the banner may or may not have been burned