Budget 12/2010

"We have a country"

We use to own a decent part of it before he decided to mortgage it away.
And then Fine Gael will ride in to sell off the rest of it, starting with 9% of the land - which is mainly forest, ESB and Gas.
A complete new twist to the 'nightmare before christmas'.

Originally Posted by Spudulika

Bonnie, give the man a break, we should love him all the more for this. By year he means season - so fair dues, he's looking for the LOI vote! Then remembered, oh feck, sure isn't it a summer season now. I can't take him seriously thanks to Nob Nation.

Nob Nation's the reason? :P

Geysir. Don't worry. Labour won't let them do it. Don't worry.

I always worry when a man in a suit comes on the screen and says don't worry.

Well. I wasn't wearing a suit or on VB.
Watching O Cuiv makes me wonder sometimes... why didn't the British army just sort out Dev when they had the chance in 1916?

Don't confuse O'Cuiv with Dev, Dev wouldn't have resorted to telling the peasantry to string themselves up with their rosary beads while the political masters sold the sovereignty of the country and made the people pay for the deal.

Though it wouldn't surprise me if FF arranged to have Dev's bones dug up and paraded them around the country after christmas.

Well, it would work. DeV had one of the great share scams and made his family, and FF, rich with it. So maybe he can deliver something similar from hell - a scheme to rip off more yanks.

His name alone makes me think of my grandad's vitriolic distaste of the man. Reminds me of my dislike for Haughey and De Poor oul Bert. Fgsfgugdhfhggfhggdhuhjkkkjgd.

Originally Posted by BonnieShels

Nob Nation's the reason?

Well Gift Grub was part of Bartholomew's appeal, imho. Certainly played up to the loveable rogue rather than the reality anyway in a lot of peoples heads.

That's very true. As much as I loved Gift I hate that very thing you just mentioned.

Though Noonan's return to the front bench in FG gave us one of the funniest Gift Grubs ever.

Originally Posted by geysir

Don't confuse O'Cuiv with Dev, Dev wouldn't have resorted to telling the peasantry to string themselves up with their rosary beads while the political masters sold the sovereignty of the country and made the people pay for the deal.

Though it wouldn't surprise me if FF arranged to have Dev's bones dug up and paraded them around the country after christmas.

No, I suspect Dev would have defaulted on our debt.

Originally Posted by John83

No, I suspect Dev would have defaulted on our debt.

Our debt? You mean the bank debt?

I agree, Dev would not have tolerated turning bondholder bank debt into sovereign debt.

Maybe I missed something but has Dev come back from the dead to lead the country again?

Yet again we can't seem to get away from the first half of the last century.

Why not go back further? There's no way Brian Boru would've engaged in bailout negotiations with the Germans. No doubt Cú Chulainn would've stood firm also, assuming he wasn't otherwise engaged in a cattle raid in Cooley.

The reference to Dev was was made in conjunction with Ó Cuiv and besides, we all know that at least Dev was real, whereas Cú Chulainn is another Nordie myth.

Originally Posted by geysir

The reference to Dev was was made in conjunction with Ó Cuiv and besides, we all know that at least Dev was real, whereas Cú Chulainn is another Nordie myth.

Whoosh.

Originally Posted by geysir

The reference to Dev was was made in conjunction with Ó Cuiv and besides, we all know that at least Dev was real, whereas Cú Chulainn is another Nordie myth.

Dev is certainly more myth than fact these days. Like most former politicians

Originally Posted by John83

No, I suspect Dev would have defaulted on our debt.

More than likely he would, but it might have ended up like the Land Annuities and Economic War in the 1930s. Of course, being FF, withholding payments from Britain didn't prevent them collecting the monies from the small farmers they were supposed to represent...

I hate that his ghost still hangs over the nation through the cult. Hopefully soon it will be all over.

Back to the budget, the goon Gogarty came out today while he will vote for the SW Bill he will request changes to it.

I ask ya. I'm glad to see he feels strongly about something and doesn't sit on the fence.

CSO have released loads of stats today further exposing the devastation of FF/GP's campaign of social and economic destruction upon the citizens of the state

QNHS Q3 2010, Long-term unemployment 47%, Unemployment/underemployment at 22.6% - http://www.cso.ie/releasespublicatio...rrent/qnhs.pdf

Uh-oh stagflation coming around the corner? , CPI up 0.6% (November 2010 compared to November 2009) - http://www.cso.ie/releasespublicatio...urrent/cpi.pdf

Economic Depression continued, GDP down 1.2 % (Q2 2010 compared to Q1 2010) - http://www.cso.ie/releasespublicatio...urrent/qna.pdf


These 6bn of cuts will ensure that we'll be turning the corner alright, into the corner of economic abyss in 2011

Someone on AAM calculated a couple of days ago that the low-paid self-employed - of which I am one - will see a tax increase of 6%. I've underlined that in case you missed it. So we pay 6% more PAYE and PRSI, and do you know what we get back from that on the dole if we lose our jobs if our companies go bust? Nothing. Not a sausage.

Not a lot of ROI in my paying taxes. Speaking as a businessman.

Well that's all down to the fact that PRSI is sold as a contribution when its really just another tax.
It always seems that Irish Society is out to get us all. Everything the State is involved in give or take just feels regressive and that any contribution we make seems to make next to no difference unless we're connected to something or someone.
Anyway. Happy Thursday.