Budget 12/2010

**dahamsta** · 03/12/2010, 2:24 PM

Actually I'm just posting the Fine Gael and Labour proposals, but this might as well be a general budget thread.

If you merge them, in a coalition government with FG at the helm and a large Lab contingent, but amend the higher income/corporation taxes to increase by 1%, I'll storm the Dail tomorrow.

**Reality Bites** · 03/12/2010, 2:34 PM

Originally Posted by dahamsta

Actually I'm just posting the Fine Gael and Labour proposals, but this might as well be a general budget thread.

If you merge them, in a coalition government with FG at the helm and a large Lab contingent, but amend the higher income/corporation taxes to increase by 1%, I'll storm the Dail tomorrow.

As per my thread below on Default, surely the only option is to reject budget and set up procedure for default...Budget is an exercise in kowtowing to our European masters with their needless and excessive interest rate on loan...if Gilmore can match his indignation in the dail yesterday with the strength to reject Budget well then that is the single most important issue up for debate!

**dahamsta** · 03/12/2010, 8:05 PM

I don't think FG and Labour are willing to admit that we need to default yet. I'm not sure they will until it's too late. I'm not sure they'll ever admit it.

**BonnieShels** · 04/12/2010, 5:42 PM

You can't announce your intention to default. We won't know til it happens. Though I'd say we would be a year from it at least.

**mypost** · 06/12/2010, 5:58 PM

Lowry caves in, and the budget is passed.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1206/budget.html

**dahamsta** · 06/12/2010, 6:00 PM

I'm shocked and stunned. He's so trustworthy!

Link to article: http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1206/budget.html

**culloty82** · 06/12/2010, 6:17 PM

The bigger story must be Lucinda Creighton though - surely Kenny must kick her out of FG if she does abstain or vote in favour.

**BonnieShels** · 06/12/2010, 6:34 PM

Originally Posted by mypost

Lowry caves in, and the budget is passed.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1206/budget.html

Just been listening to the odious shoite on The Last Word.
He's just doing what's right for the country.
In other words the Gaming legislation will be passed before the end of this D�il and he'll get his Tipp Vegas

**BonnieShels** · 06/12/2010, 6:46 PM

Originally Posted by culloty82

The bigger story must be Lucinda Creighton though - surely Kenny must kick her out of FG if she does abstain or vote in favour.

Had a seminar cancelled on Friday just gone and she was to lecture at it. Was dying to get stuck into her, figuratively, over her codology the last year. If she doesn't vote with her party she'll lose the whip. I can see this being another FG crisis. Toolage.

**Mr A** · 06/12/2010, 7:59 PM

How could she vote against it with any credibility now? Surely she has to abstain at this stage, it would be ridiculous to vote against it just because she thought it would make no difference.

As for Lowry- he is scum. And so are those that vote for him.

**mypost** · 06/12/2010, 9:03 PM

Originally Posted by Mr A

How could she vote against it with any credibility now? Surely she has to abstain at this stage, it would be ridiculous to vote against it just because she thought it would make no difference.

As for Lowry- he is scum. And so are those that vote for him.

If she doesn't walk up the No aisle tomorrow night, her electorate should make an example of her at the polls. "Abstaining" is the cowards way out, and voting for it (in all but technicality) to me.

We need a new government with a fresh budget. The country is funded until after the next election, so a blueshirt voting for an FF budget, instead of their own budget in a few weeks, means her position within the party is untenable.

We don't want this budget, we don't want this government to implement this budget. This is a time for those overpaid robots in there to stand up and fight for this country tomorrow night, and the only way of doing that is by walking up the No Aisle.

**BonnieShels** · 06/12/2010, 9:24 PM

Completely agree.

**BohsPartisan** · 06/12/2010, 11:37 PM

Legalisiation of Drugs is the answer. With the Netherlands preparing to slaughter their cash cow it's time for us to step in as Narco-Tourism central. Think all the jobs that will be created. Think of the tax revenue. Granted I may be late for work the odd day...

**SkStu** · 07/12/2010, 2:16 AM

Originally Posted by BohsPartisan

Legalisiation of Drugs is the answer. With the Netherlands preparing to slaughter their cash cow it's time for us to step in as Narco-Tourism central. Think all the jobs that will be created. Think of the tax revenue. Granted I may be late for work the odd day...

now youre talking. I might even come home then!

**BonnieShels** · 07/12/2010, 10:57 AM

Hmmm... yeah right... Ireland or Canada, Ireland or Canada, Ireland or Canada?
After spending two weeks there last winter I can honestly say you'll be buying me a pint in Saskatoon before I get you one in Dublin you crazy man.

**Fr Damo** · 07/12/2010, 2:53 PM

Rumours abound that public sector pay will be maxed at 250K and RTE were falling over themselves going through the semi sates and what it would mean to the CEOs of those companies.

CIE
Coillte
ESB
RTE
DAA

+ a few more are all on more than 250k pa and therefore are in line for a reduction. 66% in the case of P McManus at ESB. Is this optics or can the Government actually succeed?

**Dodge** · 07/12/2010, 3:02 PM

Don't see how they wouldn't succeed. FG have said they'll limit it to 200k, Labour have said 190k

**Mr A** · 07/12/2010, 3:02 PM

That will be for new hires. Those already there will not be affected I think.

Edit: I was referring to the semi-states here.

**Fr Damo** · 07/12/2010, 3:37 PM

RTE seemed pretty sure it ment pay reductions for those on 250+ already.

Guess we'll know soon enough but there aren't many semi states hiring and offerring pay of 250k at the moment.