If 2 grown men (or 2 groups of grown men) want to use each other as punch bags thats their own stupidity, and leave them at it- but it has no place in Turners Cross or any other football ground where there are innocent people who could get hurt
I think we all know City fans started it.
To be honest can you really call the Rovers fans scum for reacting? What are they meant to do quote Bible passages and turn the other cheek. If you saw City fans getting attacked what would you do? Some of it was over-acting from the Rovers fans but have no doubt it was OUR fans who showed themselves to be the SCUM the other night.
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Originally Posted by SÓC
Exactly.
Heres a question for everyone - if you could identify the home "fan" who got the first dig in would you inform on him???
whoever started that ****e has no place in a football ground and everything possible should be done to ban him- yes
I think you just answered your own question there Sean. A lot of City fans in the Shed or elsewhere saw missiles being thrown at City fans and a group of 15 Rovers fans charging out of the stand towards City fans (this has been admitted on the ultras board, doesn't matter why or what they were reacting to) so they ran to help the City fans already up there. It's called looking after your own. Ideally we'd all like if there was no trouble but what do you expect when Rovers are in town.
To be honest I'm saddened and very annoyed at some peoples reactions on here. I was expecting some people to take the moral high ground alright but to see certain people who are no angels most of the time themselves critisise there fellow City fans is a disgrace imo.
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Depends who it was but if he was a City fan then I don't think I would.
Ye're all going on about the image of the club, having a City fan arrested and fined is hardly going to attract more families to the cross now is it?
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without the slightest hint of guilt.
there may be a possibility that a few young lads got caught up in the moment and banning them for the season rather than for good might wake them up but to be honest, the guys that were behind the crap friday night, i don't want them at the cross.
there were stewards up there and the number of city fans up there toally outnumbered the number of rovers fans. the people who ran up were either looking for trouble or trying to look like hard men- either way it was idiotic.
I can't recall any people on this board being involved, or seeking to get involved, in violence at football matches. the only reactions which should sadden and annoy any TRUE city fan is the reaction of the idiots who blackened our clubs name on friday night by going looking for trouble and very nearly causing a minor incident (the arrest of a rovers fan) turn into a riot by their actions.
it would at least show that CCFC won't tolerate this kind of stupidity- even if some of their fans willYe're all going on about the image of the club, having a City fan arrested and fined is hardly going to attract more families to the cross now is it?
how many families are going to turn up the next time Rovers are in town if the club take no action Colm?having a City fan arrested and fined is hardly going to attract more families to the cross now is it?
spot on....its only 2 or 3 weeks since weve posted about general scobes actin like scumbags at matches,using city as a front to cause trouble.....does nybody else see that the club is gettin a bad name...the regular bottle throwing and now a fight,lowering ourselves to the level of the scum.....
the forum board should be full of threads about the quality of football on friday,bein our best performance,the big crowd etc. .....instead theres nearly 8pages of a B.ITCH FIGHT about who did what...at the end of the day,in the papers(echo in cork,in the herald up here on saturday) and on eL weekly 2nite the club,all the fans guilty or not will be branded the same - scumbags.
You're right there but I don't think it's fair for any of us to condemn those who were involved in Fridays minor incident because many of them are TRUE City fans aswell. It's not your position to tell somebody whether or not they're a true City fan, that's a very lordly thing to do!
If the club is going to take action, why not ban Rovers fans as many clubs ahve done with Millwall in England. Surely that is the only way they can be sure there will be no trouble whatsoever?
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Now that there seems to be a consensus that the trouble was caused by cork fans, you're solution is to ban the other clubs fans?
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
Anyone who got involved in that does not deserve to call themselves a true city fan, or even a football fan. I'll say it to their faces. At best they are idiots, at worst scumbags. There have been times at matches where I have felt like slapping sombody or throwing something, but I know there's a line you don't cross- every football fan knows that too.
There was a time when I would have agreed with you- but the fact is that city fans kicked off the trouble, not rovers fans. If it had been the other way around, I might agree with you now.
Ypu said earlier:
So when a rovers fan got removed from the ground and a city fan slapped a rovers fan and other city fans started firing stones down on the rovers section, what were the SRFC fans meant to do- stand there and take it? They were only looking after their own too. I'm not excusing the rovers fans who reacted, they are guilty too- but the same rules apply to everyone- how can you not see that? You're being totally hypocritical
Ok fair enough, it was only after the match that it emerged that City fans were to blame for starting it.
But what about the City fans who started all the hassle in the first place.
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I see what you're saying there alright but I am not being hypocritical. Rovers fans reacted and ran to protect their own, City fans did the same.
The fact remains that Rovers fans were causing trouble in the first half when City fans were nowhere near them, ffs from the Shed we could see the Gardai and stewards all rushing into the stand and having an altercation at one point in the first half. And it all only kicked off as a Rovers fan was being arrested for a somethong which also had nothing to do with City fans.
At the moment when Rovers are involved in trouble it always seems to be someone elses fault. They had riot at Doyles Corner but that was the fault of the Gardai. And at the end of the game the evil Bohs stewards were assaulting the innocent defensless Rovers fans. In Drogheda a few weeks ago there was a minor incident and that was blamed on the local scumbags and on Friday in the Cross the City fans were to blame. I'm sorry I just don't buy it. I know the Herald article was way OTT but the one constant with corwd trouble in the el is Rovers fans.
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Leaving aside anyone that "joined in" for the time being.
Its been reported that a city "fan" pretty much started everything by punching the rovers fan been renoved from the ground. How any ANYONE condone that action? How can you be "caught up in the moment" & do that. IMHO that person if caught should be banned from Turners Cross for life - it mayb be hard to enforce but should at least be attempted. Lennox comes across as a serious person with regards club reputation & such & i've no doubt he wouldn't even pause before banning such person.
Rovers have bad reputation & mostly deserved but would those who defending the city reaction have the same opinion if it was Longford or Derry fans? Its too simplistic to just brand the Rovers visitors as scum without seeing that people do come to city v rovers matches in hope of a scrap.
I'm not trying to paint Rovers as innocents here, far from it......yet there were certain City 'Fans' near enough to throw a dig at the guy arrested, where did they come from?
Fact is, there is a unsavoury element within city who went looking for an opportunity to start something on Friday night. they should be turfed out, I don't care how long they've been going to games at the cross, their type isn't needed.
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without a doubt yes. childish twits.
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