QuoteNewstalk are no more nuetral than the Indo. Disgracefully right wingOriginally Posted by culloty82
You cannot be serious. They're virtually a FF propaganda mechanism.
Newstalk are no more nuetral than the Indo. Disgracefully right wing
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Yeah thats what I would have it as well. FF cheerleaders Harris, O Dea, Brendan o Connor, Ahearn's ex, Paidi o Shea, Coleman, etc. Jesus even O Rourke in the gah section had a pro FF rant one day asking teachers to support the government.
I suppose the always excellent Kerrigan and Ross are the counterbalance, but hardly worth buying a newspaper to read two articles.
"oirish" Daily Mail is FG. Badly got it wrong last time around on morning of elections with a frontpage saying FG had done it.
The way FF are going to spin this is people like Mattie Mcgrath and others will say that they are representing old style FF and hope this will wash. Of course FF to me were always bent right from Dev up, but people still vote for them
Right on cue... So that's Monday morning sown up for a barrage at FG on Morning Ireland and News at One.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1212/bailout.html
The Government Chief Whip John Curran has called on Fine Gael to back next Wednesday's Dáil vote on the EU-IMF rescue package.
The Government Chief Whip John Curran has called on Fine Gael to act in the national interest by backing next Wednesday's Dáil vote on the EU-IMF rescue package.
Mr Curran said any party voting against the funding package should explain where the money will come from to fund public services without this facility.
Phew... crisis averted... FG are voting against it.
Last edited by BonnieShels; 12/12/2010 at 10:53 PM.
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Newstalk isn't at all neutral, as Dodge says right wing - it even has Marc Coleman hosting a show ffs! Lunchtime under Kiberd has been ridiculous recently for it's right wing agenda, and while Yates tries hard to be politically neutral between FF and FG, there's no way you could describe the show as neutral in a left v right sense. Moncrieff possibly an exception, but I've even heard your man on Culture Shock being less than neutral.
Today FM - credit where due, I think Cooper is about as neutral as they get. I've previously mentioned Gift Grub soft soaping Ahern, and other FF's and generally being hard on FG and Labour, and how that influenced Aherns image. I don't think Today FM was immune from the owners address the previous few budgets either, and obviously shares the Newstalk newsroom.
Very few of the rest of the national media is neutral. Examiner is right wing. Irish Times gives all a voice largely, but editorially it's pretty conservative (it didn't cover itself in glory during the Lisbon2 referendum for supposed balance. Any of the murdoch papers, including The Sun are right wing. The Star is really the editors mouthpiece - not sure whether it's coherent for one party, but really gone after the Unions so right wing. The Daily Mail - enough said.
I really don't know about local media - probably depends on editors and owners. I wouldn't necessarily have them down as neutral - looking at which columns the buy in is normally a bit of a giveaway.
For all the leftist media bs, most of the media in this state are right wing - it's either FF or FG - the few left learning commentators stand out because they are the exception not the rule.
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
George Hook going to Town on Enda Kenny on newstalk. Can anyone confirm if it was today or what? I was listening to the last word.
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One wonders how the wikileaks thing will affect Adams chances. His denials of IRA membership are laughable and I for one don't believe for a minute that he didn't know about the Northern Bank robbery in advance.
He's trying to be clever by deflecting this on to Bertie (and mentioning his peculiar relationship with the banks) but it still serves as a reminder that a lot of SF have a very dark past. And it's not very far in the past either so it lends some of their holier than thou attacks on other parties the tinge of hypocrisy.
Somehow though, I don't think it'll matter much in Louth and he'll still get elected. Although it'd could get interesting if a few of the other candidates there were able to land a few political punches on this one.
The real impact could be in other constituencies, and just like the last election Adams could prove to be SFs greatest electoral handicap.
Last edited by Mr A; 14/12/2010 at 8:25 AM.
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Who do you believe - Ahern or Adams. Adams has much more credibility!
I wonder did FF leak it to wikileaks? They couldn't have timed it better.
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
Don't see how FF could leak an American government cable to be honest.
And I'd believe Ahern over Adams any day of the week. I don't think Adams has much in the way of credibility when even his own supporters don't believe him.
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Everything coming from Wikileaks at the moment comes from the "cablegate" batch, so this comes from an american embassy source.
Personally, my opinion would be that it's not credible that Adams wasn't a member of the IRA, and it's not credible that Ahern... well, nothing out of Ahern's mouth is credible, absolutely nothing. Therefore Adams wins in terms of credibility.
Adams has 10 times the credibility of Ahern. Of course, he also has the same credibility as him.
We're not arrogant, we're just better.
Which Ahern are we talking about here? Both Bertie and Dermot Ahern have stood over what they said about Adams and McGuinness knowing in advance about the bank robbery. Dermot in this one would have a bit more credibility I believe and was the one I was referring to, but I think we're wandering from the point somewhat.
The central issue is whether the SF guys did know about it, and I think most people believe they probably did so.
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And they're completely credible factorial.
You can't spell failure without FAI
Not enough maths humour on here, or in general. Kudos
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Schumi probably sums up the credibility issue. None of the Aherns are cerdible - it was Bertie I was thinking off, but Dermot "No talks happening" Ahern is hardly believable either. However, anyone who is bothered whether Adams was in the IRA, or about the Northern Bank at this stage was never going to vote SF anyway or give them a preference.
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
in hindsight the northern bank job looks a case of getting your retaliation in first. Only the second biggest "bank robbery" in the history of the state at this stage!
Around this time of year, local papers run a "Season's Greetings" page, where local politicians thank their constituents. You'ld think the two FF TD's had gone independent if you didn't know any better, as the party logo has "mysteriously" vanished from their messages.
New Irish Times poll out tomorrow:
FG 30% +6
Lab 25% -8
FF 17% -7
SF 15% +7
Ind 11% +2
GP 2% n/c
http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1215/politics.html
Personally I don't get Gilmore's popularity I think he's brutal. Heaven forbid he goes 5 min without some sort of cliche or soundbite.Support for Govt at lowest ever level - Poll
Updated: 21:01, Wednesday, 15 December 2010
Support for Fianna Fáil and Labour has dropped significantly, while Fine Gael and Sinn Féin receive a boost in an opinion poll for tomorrow's Irish Times.
Poll sees Fianna Fáil support fall further
Record low for Fianna Fáil in Red C poll
Poll shows support for Brian Cowen at 11%
Red C poll shows support for FF at 18%
FG drops further behind Labour - poll
Support for Fianna Fáil and Labour has dropped significantly, while Fine Gael and Sinn Féin receive a boost in an opinion poll for tomorrow's Irish Times.
The Ipsos-MRBI poll also shows satisfaction with the Government and its leaders at historic lows.
This is the first national opinion poll since the Budget, which may well have influenced the further collapse in support for Fianna Fáil, Brian Cowen, and the Government.
These are the lowest figures ever recorded in an Irish Times poll for Fianna Fáil, any Taoiseach or Government.
Support for Fianna Fáil is down 7% since September to just 17%.
Fine Gael gets a boost of 6% to move up to 30%, while Labour loses top slot, falling by 8% to 25%.
The Green Party is unchanged at 2%. Sinn Féin has almost doubled its support by moving up 7% to 15%. Independents and others are up 2% to 11%.
Satisfaction with the Government is down 5% to just 8% and 90% of voters are dissatisfied with the Government's performance.
Satisfaction with all the party leaders has dropped.
Taoiseach Brian Cowen is down 5% to 14%, Fine Gael's Enda Kenny is down 2% to 23% and Labour's Eamon Gilmore is down 5% to 44%.
The Greens' John Gormley is down 5% to 13% and Sinn Féin's Gerry Adams falls 1% to 28%.
The poll was carried out on Monday and Tuesday of this week among 1,000 voters nationwide.
Good analysis here...
http://politicalreform.ie/2010/12/15...-16/#more-1668
Last edited by BonnieShels; 15/12/2010 at 8:19 PM.
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I won't be pleased until an election is called. I do not trust the current crowd and never have. In '97 I thought the country was in a healthy position. I've always thought it was harsh on Fine Gael and Labour not staying in power. Labour had upset people by going with Fianna Fail in '92 which is why they lost so much support.
How many people voted Fianna Fail in the last election? With a lot of people like that out there, it is hard to be confident.
Beverley Cooper Flynn and Noel Dempsey both standing down at the election. They'll be sorely missed....<scoff>
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