QuoteOh to have a first past the post system for this election only. That would sort FF out permanently.
But who will temper Labour's crazy.Originally Posted by peadar1987
Really I can't see SF jumping so high and FF falling so low.
SF poll results never translate into seat numbers. FF will still, unfortunately be in existence. I think if we have an FG-Labour super-majority governnent, ie. somewhere in the region of 110-120 seats then I think that they could manage to put through whatever measures are needed to be done in the country to fix it.
I've a fuzzy feeling this morning looking at those FF figures so forgive some of my hyperbole.
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Oh to have a first past the post system for this election only. That would sort FF out permanently.
Wouldn't that have been the ultimate irony if that was the end of them after Dev proposing that in the forties.
It's still disconcerting that 13% still think they are the answer.
Though to what question, god only knows. I can only hope they head the way of the PDs and election 2016 sees a proper left v right, FG v Labour-SF election.
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I don't think there's enough data to support that assertion. SF's rise in interest has had, what, 2-4 data points? Even that's a stretch. Plus of course using polls as a data point either way is just a waste of time, the way they're run is dodgy at best.
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Very true, but look at the last election... they were getting fairly decent poll results but they didn't end up with the seats that the polls suggested.
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That would be data point number 3 or 4. I don't mean to be rude, but did you not understand my post?
I completely misunderstood your point. Why I ever bothered to comment on statistics whilst hungover I'll never know.
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I find it's best to avoid the subject while sober too.
I try to avoid it at all costs.
Very quiet day politically. Probably nothing going to happen until Wednesday.
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Wouldn't trust polls to any great degree. There is a large cohort of the electorate out there that has been voting FF and I'd take any indication from them that they'll vote any other way with a large pinch of salt. As likely as not they just won't vote at all which may actually be something of a help to the 13%+? who actually will vote FF.
Saw a lass on PK last night who was a classic case study. Frustrated, fervent FF supporter who is -on evidence presented fairly uninterested in politics itself beyond calling Sarah whatserface a blueshirt. She just supports FF the same way she supports ...I dunno ...Tipp hurlin', ManU and Mary Byrne in X factor.
But she still gets to put an X in a box and as far as she is concerned, despite some soapy comment when pressed by Pat about 'the left gettin together' that kind of trailed off, her voting choice will be FF or stay home.
Too many out there like that for the real knockout blow to be delivered.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
Funny, I see it the other way round. If SF could temper the Labour guys and their silly notions
Well the FF charm offensive began in earnest on Monday's FFrontline. Then we had commentators talking about Cowens competence in interviews over the last few days. And then there's the interview on FFTV with the propagandist-in-chief O'Callaghan.
We are where we are.
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MOC is just easy on politicians, whether it's high profile interviews, or election debates. Her moderating to a cut-throat row in the studio is "we have to leave it there".
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Ah now, she's worse than that. Definitely gets hard nipples talking to the Natural Party of Government. Sigh. Can't believe I wrote that.
MOC is just easy on politicians, whether it's high profile interviews, or election debates. Her moderating to a cut-throat row in the studio is "we have to leave it there".
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Can't believe what I am now picturing...
That question was less stupid, though you asked it in a profoundly stupid way.
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MOC standing over Mattie McGrath and Ned O'Keeffe with a whip and a jar of Mayonnaise?
Miracle WHIP!
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One of the most embarrassing things I ever heard. I heard the entire NOK bull. My lord it was tough to. He is the king of the gombeens.
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What can you say about that, wow just wow.
He reminds me of Killeen, going down with the FF ship old school style.
And FF supporters wonder why we think they're strange?
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Media Leanings:
Will be interesting to see what angle the Sunday indo adopts in the coming months: they've already flip-flopped from being Ahern cheerleaders and writing Kenny off as a lightweight to being fully behind Fine Gael at the moment, and of course we've already discussed RTE.
FF: RTE TV and radio.
FG: Sindo, Indo, George Hook
Neutral: Local papers and radio, all other papers, Newstalk, Today FM.
INM are just going back to their roots.
I wouldn't call today fm neutral... depends on the show.
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