QuoteOMG. Well it looks like the "rights based society" will finally be created!
Just on the news there that he's to replace Arthur Morgan.
rte.ie/news/2010/1114/adamsg.html
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OMG. Well it looks like the "rights based society" will finally be created!
Robbie Hedderman. Arguably the greatest Derry City player of all time...
Irony:
To resign as an MP (which he has to do) he has to take up a position of profit within the UK (to make him ineligible as an MP).
This means he either becomes:
Gerry Adams, Crown Steward and Bailiff of the three Chiltern Hundreds of Stoke, Desborough and Burnham
or
Gerry Adams, Steward of the Manor of Northstead
Brilliant!
Completely forgot about that. Heh heh.
Not a hundred per cent on the ins and outs but does any one know why he can't be an mp and a td?
Gerry Adams, Ireland's only all-island parliamentarian.
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Theres nothing stopping him from the UK side of things, it's an irish rule that you can't be a TD if you're a British MP I think.Originally Posted by BonnieShels
On the resigning thing, would the same rules apply given he's never attended the Parliament in London? Even if he to do it, I'm sure GA would hardly be bothered recognising such archaic nonsense.
In other news, he's been replaced in the North's Assembly by former hunger-striker, Pat Sheehan.
To me this seems to be a smart move by SF. Surely it's going to be a guarenteed seat for them now? I would have classified Louth as being as Republican and Pro-Sinn Fein more than any other large constituency, and given his high profile would be sure that he'll drag more of their traditional voters out in places like Dundalk and North Co Louth?
Not sure what is to be gained overall though? I mean they're unlikely to be in a position of power, unless FF perform better than expected, or perhaps if there's a train of thought that if Adams runs for the Dail, then that might help the SF vote nationwide?
Here they come! It’s the charge of the “Thanks” Brigade!
He's an MP whether he bothers his arse attending or not. The same rules apply.
It'll be VERY embarassing for Adams and SF if he doesn't win.
Have the irish voters not rejected parties like Sinn Fein before when they've run?
Last edited by dahamsta; 17/11/2010 at 11:25 AM.
Two thoughts on Adams’ decision:
Firstly, there is a realignment under way in SF, as the young turks in the south see the grizzled, old northerners as increasingly disconnected with voters in the republic, and a threat to their future government ambitions. Adams’ performance in the last smaller party leaders’ debate on RTE showed the northern leadership to be totally out of touch with the republic. His decision could be an effort to nip a leadership heave by a younger, articulate, not-connected-to-the-Troubles TD or senator.
Or, secondly, it could be a way of gauging likely personal and SF support for a tilt at the presidency. What could be more attractive for a Shinner than to take the salute of the Defence Forces passing by the reviewing stand outside the GPO at Easter, 2016?
Would not vote for his party, but all he should do is write a letter to the parliament telling them of his desire to resign as a MP. Maybe write a few letters to the newspapers as well. The masonic resignation rules of the House of Commons should be of no concern...
And Parliament will tell him he has to take one of those titles.
Iris Robinson had to do it when she recently retired. As has every other MP who has retired, you really think they'd make an exception for Gerry Adams?
Why not, he never took up his seat....
And? He's an elected member of parliament. Whether he takes his seat is irrelevant!
But they would have to make an exception if he's not there....
They really wouldn't!
I can't see how they can force him to take this title. He'll tell them to do one, and they will be left to decide whether or not to call a by-election. There isn't a possibility of anything but an abstentionist SF mp being elected in the by-election, so its not like anyone will notice the difference whether they want to call a by election or not
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They wont have to force him to do anything. Under Irish law he won't be allowed to become a TD unless he stops being an MP, so he's the one who has to make the moves in this case. And as an MP cannot simply resign, he will have to go down the route of taking an office of profit under the crown..
Would this not be a good thing for him to try just to show up anachronisms of the British system. I still think that it wont be conventional.
Last edited by BonnieShels; 17/11/2010 at 11:26 PM.
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What if he just tells Westminster to GTF, sends a letter saying "I'm resigning and that's it." ?
What are they going to do, arrest him??
The letter will be worthless as an MP cannot resign, so they're not going to do a thing. But he won't be allowed to become a TD.
@Bonnieshels - I suppose he could try and highlight the issue, but changing that kind of thing would take years I'd say.
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