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**4tothefloor** · 12/05/2004, 5:22 PM

Originally Posted by eoinh

Well, again it doesnt prove how expensive its going to be because you dont give the amount of shares that have been issued.

There might only be 2 shares of �4,000. If a company has 1,000,000 shares at .50p that company would be the more expensive buyout.

Very high priced shraes usually indicated that there is not many actual shares.

I can guarantee you every share at Anfield is worth at LEAST �4,000. They're much sought after, but very hard to get. My family has been trying for years (each share entitles you to tickets for all the games (on request), including 2 tickets to every cup final etc. Well worth the investment). This is how the current deal is proposed.

15,000 shares = 30% (roughly)
15,000 * �4,000 = �60,000,000 million

This is being done through a new share issue, they are creating 15,000 new shares. Currently, Moores holding is 51% and as I understand it, he is not willing to sell any of his shares. Thus the share issue. Morgan wants to come in and avail of this, but in addition, re-issue another �12 million worth of shares to fans at �175 each, thus bringing his proposal up to �73 million of an investment. Thats the good side of Morgan, plus the fact that he's anti-Houllier. The bad side is the stuff I mentioned earlier.

Moores shares are apparantly worth up to �120 million, but it'd probably take �150 million to get him to sell. Not that he wants to, especially to Morgan, as he doesn't like him or his plans for the club.

Macy: I said I would back Morgan at a push as he was the lesser of the two evils. Do they not sell glasses up in Longford?! Also, The Thais WILL NOT have a member, or representative, on the board. Morgans offer comes with a stipulation that he gets a place on the board. Moores does not want anymore people on the board, as he sees it as a threat to his chairmanship. Thus him having a problem with Morgans bid all along, and instead dealing with the Thais, who I repeat, will not have a place, nor have they requested a place, on the LFC board. They will be just a large shareholder, with a company representing them in any dealings with the club. Their end of the deal is that an academy is set up in Thailand. Thats all they care about. Thaksin also wants to market Thai goods on the Asian and world markets through the Liverpool brand. Not sure how much LFC would benefit from this though.

**Macy** · 13/05/2004, 9:10 AM

Originally Posted by 4tothefloor

Macy: I said I would back Morgan at a push as he was the lesser of the two evils. Do they not sell glasses up in Longford?!

You started Pro Morgan (anti Thai)....

I hope they go with Morgans deal as it is a better one and a safer bet, though the Star today showed Parry and Shinawatara shaking hands on a deal.

Then you anti morgan (Pro Thai by Definition)

Changed my mind about morgan now. He plans to float the club on the stock market, groundshare with Everton and commercialise the club a la Man Utd. **** that

And then it became Morgan is the lesser of two evils

I don't like Morgan but he's the lesser of the two evils when compared to Shinawatra.

Do they not teach you how to read back over a thread in Limerick? The first mention of seeing Morgan as the lesser of two evils was after I asked whether you preferred a human rights abuser to Morgan. Then you respond to a post in which I was referring to Declan_Michael. YSB.

btw from the BBC website from yesterday

THAKSIN OPTION: Would expect representation on the board, but all early indications suggest he will be a benign influence, at least at the start, leaving major decisions to those already in power.

**Macy** · 13/05/2004, 9:15 AM

Originally Posted by Declan_Michael

As for investors do ya reckon Chelsea fans are moaning about Abaromvich (sp)? If Chelsea won the league wait for the enivitable 'they bought the league their all against us!' cries from the Mancs.

They're not now, and that was never what I was trying to say - If Abramovic (sp? again) gets bored with playing football clubs then it's Chelsea RIP as they'll be gone within weeks. Blackburn brought the league, but when Walker died and the money dried up what followed? I doubt they'll win the league in the next 20 years, unless someone else comes in spending unsustainable amounts of money...

**4tothefloor** · 13/05/2004, 9:56 AM

Bull**** Macy, never once did I say I was pro Thai. Not once in that thread. You're twisting things to suit yourself. No need to read back over the thread. I started off backing Morgan, and never changed from that stance. In between posts, I came across a new article about Morgan, and simply expressed my reservations about him having learned of his plans for the club. The only change was my support for him was now alot more reserved than my initial post. Whats wrong with that. Never was I pro Thai. To twist it your way, you wrote:

'Then you anti morgan (Pro Thai by Definition)'?

Is there a rule that says you have to like one of them? No there isn't. Ideally, I wouldn't back either. But Morgan is the better bet as he is Liverpool born and bred, plus he's putting more money in. I have my reservations about some of his plans though, which I mentioned earlier. You're saying that I must back one or the other, so if I back Morgan I must back everything in his proposal. Good man Macy

In reply to your vulgarity - GFY, YSB!

**Macy** · 13/05/2004, 10:07 AM

What about the Thai bid not wanting board representation? Are you willing to admit that he does appear to want that? Or am in collusion with the BBC just to bullsh�t you?

You certainly didn't say Morgan was the lesser of two evils earlier in the thread, and yesterday afternoon that was in response to Declan Michael which you don't seem to have grasped.