QuoteIf he loves the club so much how comes he's waited so long to put so much money into it?Originally Posted by thomas72
Only diff is or chairman is from Limerick loves the club o and prob a big factor he is worth 700mill
Only diff is or chairman is from Limerick loves the club o and prob a big factor he is worth 700mill
If he loves the club so much how comes he's waited so long to put so much money into it?Only diff is or chairman is from Limerick loves the club o and prob a big factor he is worth 700mill
How much are they earning then exact figures please?
You must know seen as you know they are full-time contracts?
Gamble, when interviewed, said he wouldn't have another job and will do his own training by the day. If he's earning enough not to have another job, and his full time job is training, then that's fulltime imo.
The figures I've heard, from a well placed LOI source, aren't extortionate. based on a weekly rate, and appearance money.
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would you put your money into another mans pocket? he didnt own the club and the club structures wernt right now that they are and he owns it the future of limerick football club looks so so sweet
And add into that it is only one or two players people are saying are on or possibly on big money. If we had a whole squad of expensive players I'd be worried.
More money has probably been invested into the structures too than the first team which is always encouraging. If we where looking at building a great first team with nothing to back it up then they are the times when we should really worry. This isn't the case with us at the moment.
The people who are saying Limerick would want to be careful and we have all heard this before are just looking at the signings of Gamble, Behan and possibly Dan Murray without looking at anything else Pat is doing.
Thats fair enough but his contract is not full-time if it was then he would be training with us 5 days a week or whatever he is not he is doing it in his own time.
Im sure there are players at Cork that dont have other jobs are they full-time?
Not extortionate compared to what?
The Arkaga days?
Current Premier Division wages?
Or current First Division wages?
They're students.
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So every other player ye have that are not students has another job then ya?
A fella could be "full time" on €350 quid a week.
All of the above.
Thats still a big wage for a First division footballer in LOI.
What about Chris Breen too? He didn't exactly move from Donegal for small wages.
On top of this, maybe its not all wages these players are getting. Maybe rent paid, fuel allowance, and other factors which aren't included in basic wage.
Last edited by nigel-harps1954; 03/07/2011 at 7:05 PM.
He was already moving to Galway.
The Terryland exodus looks like it has begun.
Sean Connor announced on GBFM that Greg Fleming is joining Bradford, and that Karl Moore is going to England. Steve Feeney, Joe Yoffe and Brian Cash all gone too.
Not confirmed on official site yet though, so nothing can be officially confirmed until then
It would be a reasonable wage alright ya, not massive though and definitely not extortionate.
The €350 figure was meaningless anyway, just a comment on the stoopid implication that "full time" = "big money"
How much would you reckon Chris Breen is on?? seven?? eight?? nine hundred euro a week??What about Chris Breen too? He didn't exactly move from Donegal for small wages.
Pat O'Sullivan has a few coal yards tbf.On top of this, maybe its not all wages these players are getting. Maybe rent paid, fuel allowance, and other factors which aren't included in basic wage
I'm not jumping on the 'Limerick are paying too much' bandwagon. I admire the ambition of the club to be honest, but just the sheer fact, it has to go wrong somewhere. There needs to be a steadier income for the club. O'Sullivan may have a lot of money, he may be a Limerick man, he may invest smartly in some areas of the club, but the fact of the matter is, his money is not infinite. Anything goes slightly belly up for him then the club are absolutely screwed. Face it, on crowds of 400 or 500 you're never really going to make much money. All the crap of 'other income from other avenues' is rubbish. At the end of the day most income for LOI clubs comes from matchday.It would be a reasonable wage alright ya, not massive though and definitely not extortionate.
The €350 figure was meaningless anyway, just a comment on the stoopid implication that "full time" = "big money"
How much would you reckon Chris Breen is on?? seven?? eight?? nine hundred euro a week??
Pat O'Sullivan has a few coal yards tbf.
EDIT. As for Chris Breen, I refuse to be brought into an argument over what he may or may not be receiving as with every other argument on this forum, I just find it strange he went all the way to Limerick when he had a job in Ballybofey.
Last edited by nigel-harps1954; 03/07/2011 at 9:43 PM.
I wasn't picking up on you specifically in fairness, my apologies.
See this is where I just don't get what peoples problem is.I admire the ambition of the club to be honest, but just the sheer fact, it has to go wrong somewhere. There needs to be a steadier income for the club. O'Sullivan may have a lot of money, he may be a Limerick man, he may invest smartly in some areas of the club, but the fact of the matter is, his money is not infinite. Anything goes slightly belly up for him then the club are absolutely screwed. Face it, on crowds of 400 or 500 you're never really going to make much money. All the crap of 'other income from other avenues' is rubbish.
When Pat O'Sullivan came into the club we had seven or eight players signed, loads of debt and a laptop with a cracked screen. That was it, that was Limerick FC, a two bit shambles of a first division club.
Now we have club offices, a new stadium, a youth academy, a club lotto and zero debt.
If Pat stays on for a few years, in those few years we will become one of the top half dozen clubs in the country.
If the worst comes to the worst and he takes off to Sandals resort at Christmas for a well earned retirement, we go back to being a two bit first division club but with a new stadium, a youth academy, club offices, a club lotto and zero debt.
We cannot lose. It's just the extent of the win that's the question. I just don't get how people can't get that.
See there's your problem.At the end of the day most income for LOI clubs comes from matchday
First off I'd question this.
Second off, any club which is depending on it's matchday income for most of it's revenue is every bit as unsustainable in the medium to long term as a club with an oligarch owner. Do the simple sums, it doesn't come close to adding up. This is the challenge all LoI clubs face.
You might go easy on the innuendo surrounding the "strangeness" of the whole thing then.EDIT. As for Chris Breen, I refuse to be brought into an argument over what he may or may not be receiving
I think the problem is that you'd also be left with (possibly) substantial contracts to honour without the income levels to meet them.
A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes for his friends.
Yep, of course. I wasn't using it to comment on the amount of money, just replying to whether he was full time or not.
Students, or part time +on the dole I'd imagine. They certainly wouldn't survive on the money they're paid, the vast majority of them anyway, same for Limerick for most I'd imagine.
Full time for me is a contract that you can survive on without another job + conditions of doing full time hours e.g. training every day, as part of the contract.
Not necessarily. If he is expeccted by the club to do a certain amount each day i.e. it's part of his job rather than optional, then that would also count as fulltime.
Can we move this thread to the Limerick section please?
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