Weekend Latest 22-24 Oct

**Charlie Darwin** · 24/10/2010, 3:27 AM

Originally Posted by carrickharp

Joke of a league full stop, bloody joke watching that clip it says it so ****ed off as a genuine fan it's down heartening we are in major dept but Derry are off scot free (we cant pay the money for wages as we are trying to pay off mistakes from the past but they as they have NO depts as they are a NEW club bull****, bull****, bull**** same honors, same founded date in the programme) all a load off bull but all is well as Derry are up and that's all the FAI wanted either them or Cork up, no wonder fans are ****ed off with this league.

I don't really see the problem - the best team won the league. The club did all the right things: dissolved the previous institution, purged the board and applied to join a league that it was fully entitled to compete in.

What exactly is it that you want, for everybody involved with the club to commit ritual suicide along the road to Ballybofey?

**dancinpants** · 24/10/2010, 6:36 AM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

I don't really see the problem - the best team won the league. The club did all the right things: dissolved the previous institution, purged the board and applied to join a league that it was fully entitled to compete in.

What exactly is it that you want, for everybody involved with the club to commit ritual suicide along the road to Ballybofey?

The problem is that Harps fans creamed themselves at the notion of Derrys honours list being expunged - thereby helping get rid of the pain of being "Forever in our shadow". But here we are, after one season in the 1st we've achieved what Harps have in the last what? I don't even remember what year it is Harps won the 1st Division title . Bet you carrickharp didn't feel like this when the final whistle blew at the Brandy the other night....bet you he was basking in the notion of throwing a spanner in the works. Now that Mervue have undone Harps "good work" ? Well it's just a case of throwing the dummy from the pram.

**WoodquayBoy** · 24/10/2010, 9:01 AM

IN response to the poster who asked about odds on 3 Galway clubs winning, I know United were 8/1 to beat Bohs and Salthill were 14/1 to beat Cork. Don't know what odds Mervue were, but would imagine it was in the same region - would have been some treble!! You NEARLY have to feel sorry for Devon, winning on the pitch for only the second time this season - and then Mervue go and pull off the shock of the First Division season to send them to the play off.

**CSFShels** · 24/10/2010, 9:47 AM

Mervue were 10/1.

**osarusan** · 24/10/2010, 10:20 AM

What a crazy weekend. This really is a league (both divisions) that nobody wants to win. Still, just like I confidently said about Bohs last week, Rovers will hardly throw it away now.

As long as Monaghan get a point, I think they're assured of a playoff spot. If Shels and Waterford draw, they need to lose by less than 4. Should be a cracker between Shels and Waterford in Tolka. Shels are probably the form team in the country (or Bray?) but Waterford only need a point.

Great stuff.

**monutdfc** · 24/10/2010, 10:21 AM

It's like waking up with a dreadful hangover wishing last night never happened!

**monutdfc** · 24/10/2010, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by osarusan

As long as Monaghan don't lose by 4, I think they're assured of a playoff spot.

If Shels beat Waterford we need a point v Derry I think

**osarusan** · 24/10/2010, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by monutdfc

If Shels beat Waterford we need a point v Derry I think

You're right of course, don't know how I missed that. Post edited.

**MariborKev** · 24/10/2010, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by monutdfc

It's like waking up with a dreadful hangover wishing last night never happened!

I just woke up with said hangover, after one hell of a party in the Social Club last night! Roll on next week.

**Nah Nah Nah Nah** · 24/10/2010, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by osarusan

What a crazy weekend. This really is a league (both divisions) that nobody wants to win. Still, just like I confidently said about Bohs last week, Rovers will hardly throw it away now.

As long as Monaghan get a point, I think they're assured of a playoff spot. If Shels and Waterford draw, they need to lose by less than 4. Should be a cracker between Shels and Waterford in Tolka. Shels are probably the form team in the country (or Bray?) but Waterford only need a point.

Great stuff.

Bray hasn't won in 5 games! I'd say we're probably the form team in the country.

**total hoofball** · 24/10/2010, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by eekers

Derry, here's how you won the league.

Thats almost of reminiscent of Michael Turner's backpass in the Liverpool/Sunderland match last month. Turner, obvious to everyone in the ground, flicked the ball back so the free kick would be taken from the correct spot and Grimes was doing the same passing to 10 yards or so forward to where the initial foul took place. Grimes ****ed up by placing the ball with his hand which can be interpreted as taking the kick but like in the Liverpool match common sense was lacking from the ref because what defender gently passes a ball a staight to an attacker in that position, the cop on alarm bells should have been ringing for the ref when Gaffney himself turned back to ask what the hell was going on. I feel sorry Grimes.

**GalwayRed** · 24/10/2010, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah

Bray hasn't won in 5 games! I'd say we're probably the form team in the country.

I think its a pretty close call between ourselves and Sligo alright. We've won 9 of our last 11 league matches.

**osarusan** · 24/10/2010, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah

Bray hasn't won in 5 games! I'd say we're probably the form team in the country.

Fair enough, I was thinking more of the teams involved in playoffs.

**total hoofball** · 24/10/2010, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

I don't really see the problem - the best team won the league. The club did all the right things: dissolved the previous institution, purged the board and applied to join a league that it was fully entitled to compete in.

What exactly is it that you want, for everybody involved with the club to commit ritual suicide along the road to Ballybofey?

The club cheated last season, shut down/re-open by buying name back screwing creditors in process (all with facilitated by FAI), parachuted into 1st Division when they should have started in the A League, their new debt free status means they had the highest budget in the division and inevitably won the league. Simply put, their 'punishment' was one season in the First Division with having their debts cleared. Any First division team like Harps, Waterford, Shels or whoever who are restrained by trying to pay off their debts should feel cheated, it wasn't a level playing ground.

**GalwayRed** · 24/10/2010, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by total hoofball

Thats almost of reminiscent of Michael Turner's backpass in the Liverpool/Sunderland match last month. Turner, obvious to everyone in the ground, flicked the ball back so the free kick would be taken from the correct spot and Grimes was doing the same passing to 10 yards or so forward to where the initial foul took place. Grimes ****ed up by placing the ball with his hand which can be interpreted as taking the kick but like in the Liverpool match common sense was lacking from the ref because what defender gently passes a ball a staight to an attacker in that position, the cop on alarm bells should have been ringing for the ref when Gaffney himself turned back to ask what the hell was going on. I feel sorry Grimes.

Yeah I would agree with that. Gaffney is standing directly in the spot where the free kick should have been taken. If the ref were to go by the rules of the game the goal shouldn't have stood because if the ref is interpreting the free to have been taken, then its been taken from the wrong position. Common sense as well would tell you that Grimes wanted the free kick taken from the spot Gaffney was in.
Harsh on Grimes.

**osarusan** · 24/10/2010, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by GalwayRed

Common sense as well would tell you that Grimes wanted the free kick taken from the spot Gaffney was in.
Harsh on Grimes.

True, but common sense also tells you to never do what Grimes did just in case the ref interprets it like last night.

**OneRedArmy** · 24/10/2010, 2:02 PM

Originally Posted by total hoofball

The club cheated last season, shut down/re-open by buying name back screwing creditors in process (all with facilitated by FAI), parachuted into 1st Division when they should have started in the A League, their new debt free status means they had the highest budget in the division and inevitably won the league. Simply put, their 'punishment' was one season in the First Division with having their debts cleared. Any First division team like Harps, Waterford, Shels or whoever who are restrained by trying to pay off their debts should feel cheated, it wasn't a level playing ground.

So you feel sorry for Wellvan's major creditors and think they should be repaid?

I'd suggest you and the bitter Harps clown have a look at the winding up papers.

**Mad Moose** · 24/10/2010, 2:18 PM

I don't think there's a bitterness to James post. An anger yes. Anger toward a club that cheated. The same anger and disgust shown any club who cheat. Its so easy to point the finger at Wellvan. Well Derry City claim some great history on the administration of Wellvan. The night against Gretna (anybody remember them) and that night in Paris. Had Derry City gone on to win a league title or league and cup double you would have claimed and revelled in that history despite cheating your way to it. Your history against Harps is nothing to boast of. You were cheating the league, cheating football and its nothing to be proud of. I've been angry toward Harps on how they have run the club but if ever I knew the club cheated I'd walk away. I'd lose faith in my club forever. Well done Derry on your first honour as a club. We both have a first division title in our honours list. We have a FAI Cup Final win too. You have some catching up to do.

**Spudulika** · 24/10/2010, 2:38 PM

While it was a shame to see Derry end up in a mess, and somehow unsettling to see them bounce right back up, it just goes to show how awful football is organised in Ireland and how desperate the FAI were to keep a team in Derry somehow. I don't blame anyone in Derry, and I am 100% sure that if they'd been told - it's A Championship for you lot - last season, they'd gladly have joined the league, won it and next year win the 1st Division, not because of big money, but because they are the closest thing to a club most of us will encounter. I understand how other clubs who suffered might **** a strange eye at them, however would any of us have the moral courage to stop our club getting a place in the league when the abyss was before us?

**Charlie Darwin** · 24/10/2010, 4:14 PM

Originally Posted by total hoofball

The club cheated last season, shut down/re-open by buying name back screwing creditors in process (all with facilitated by FAI), parachuted into 1st Division when they should have started in the A League, their new debt free status means they had the highest budget in the division and inevitably won the league. Simply put, their 'punishment' was one season in the First Division with having their debts cleared. Any First division team like Harps, Waterford, Shels or whoever who are restrained by trying to pay off their debts should feel cheated, it wasn't a level playing ground.

It's a new club and a new company. Why would they pay somebody else's debts? I know we are particularly eager to pay other people's debts in this country but they're a little smarter in the UK.