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    Quote Originally Posted by legendz View Post
    With just the relegation/promotion play-off to come, we could nearly start predictions on how the divisions will line-up at the start of next year, not many leagues could make a prediction competition based on that at a season's end! My own prediction for the start of next season is 12 & 12 of:


    First Division:
    Galway Utd
    Limerick FC
    Waterford Utd
    Longford Town
    Mervue Utd
    Athlone Town
    Finn Harps
    Wexford Youths
    Salthill
    FC Carlow
    Tralee Dynamos
    Cobh Ramblers
    Well that'll draw the crowds

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    Quote Originally Posted by monsexile View Post
    Mons are playing Keith Quinn and John Reilly tonight as they agree with Limerick that suspensions should not count. Also seeking to get Finn Harps 2-2 draw in March replayed as Monaghan were forced to not play Declan O'Brien after he had been sent off playing for ANOTHER TEAM in ANOTHER SEASON.
    Limerick logic. Bore off.
    We did it on the pitch Monaghan didnt .... So any news on tonights match been called off

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    What you did on the pitch was finish one point short of what you needed to do. I wonder will Limerick have spent more on lawyers than on Gamble, Behan and Gaffney by the end of the year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monsexile View Post
    What you did on the pitch was finish one point short of what you needed to do. I wonder will Limerick have spent more on lawyers than on Gamble, Behan and Gaffney by the end of the year.
    If you have it spend it, is what I always say....I suppose you could call it a motto

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    Or whether you have it or not spend it anyway...well thats what the rest of the league says! ;P Worked for the Corkies and they are back with a bang lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by monsexile View Post
    What you did on the pitch was finish one point short of what you needed to do. I wonder will Limerick have spent more on lawyers than on Gamble, Behan and Gaffney by the end of the year.

    On the pitch we got 1 point more than Monaghan.

    There is still a lot to come out on this but not my place to be revealing anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gspain View Post
    On the pitch we got 1 point more than Monaghan.

    There is still a lot to come out on this but not my place to be revealing anything.
    Very mysterious. Has already been taken to FAI appeal and then rejected in arbritation, the European Court of Human Rights must be clearing their case schedule to make room for another farcical waste of Limerick money. Even Harps have accepted the decision and taken their punishment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monsexile View Post
    Very mysterious. Has already been taken to FAI appeal and then rejected in arbritation, the European Court of Human Rights must be clearing their case schedule to make room for another farcical waste of Limerick money. Even Harps have accepted the decision and taken their punishment.
    How much was Harps fine?

    It was never heard in arbitration

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    Quote Originally Posted by harpin View Post
    How much was Harps fine?

    It was never heard in arbitration
    €2,500 I think it was. Money we can't afford.

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    Just to be clear, Limerick are complaining that the FAI is enforcing the rules correctly?

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    I think their point is that the FAI did not enforce their own rules correctly. I think if they're willing to take it to court that they'd have a good case.
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    Are Limerick arguing that the norm is to deduct 3 points from the offending team rather than award all the points to the other team? To be honest, I think I can remember both of those scenarios happening at different times in the past so hard to tell what the precedent would be...
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    Kilkenny were deducted points (and then got them back). Pats recieved a points deduction. Cant recall points being awarded tbh....vaguely Shels maybe?
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    I'm fairly certain the FAI changed their rules within the past 5 years.

    Specifically to both punish the offending club, and reward the 'honest' club who had been disadvantaged by the ineligible player playing

    (The example usually giving is that if TEAM A only require a draw to stay ahead of TEAM B, and they played each other in the last game, the old rule wouldn't stop TEAM A playing 6 ineligible players jusst to win the game, even with the knowledge they'd be deducted those 3 points)

    EDIT; last season (2010) Salthill awarded 3-0 win after Wexford played an ineligible player
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    Quote Originally Posted by holidaysong View Post
    Are Limerick arguing that the norm is to deduct 3 points from the offending team rather than award all the points to the other team? To be honest, I think I can remember both of those scenarios happening at different times in the past so hard to tell what the precedent would be...
    It's standard practice for the team that infringed to forfeit the match.

    A points deduction would make sense if Harps had lost the match as a walkover wouldn't be any sort of punishment. For Limerick to argue that Mons shouldn't get the points from a match in which they were placed at an unfair advantage is just bizarre.

    Rule 35 here in the FAI rule book is purposefully vague, but that's only to account for whether the offending club won, lost or drew.

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    To clarify- I think Limerick would argue that the player was never suspended as the official notification was never sent.
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    Ah! Now that is a plausible argument. But once again a messy business especially with the play-off tonight

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    Quote Originally Posted by monsexile View Post
    . I wonder will Limerick have spent more on lawyers than on Gamble, Behan and Gaffney by the end of the year.
    Get over it. Limerick have the money for the first time years because a geniune football man, in Pat' O Sullivan has invested in the club. Many clubs in the past few years have spent money they didn't have to be successfull in both tiers and Limerick were always spending within their means doing things properly while these clubs took all the sucess and when they were put down to the First Divsion it was Limerick that suffered as the likes of Derry, Cork had the resources to do well even though they spent money they didn't have. Limerick got it this year and have been building a very good team and unfortunatly were good enough on the pitch at the end but points rewarded off the pitch were enough to keep Limerick down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gspain View Post
    On the pitch we got 1 point more than Monaghan.

    There is still a lot to come out on this but not my place to be revealing anything.
    Mons got the points they needed on the pitch. They fielded a valid team against Harps and got three points for it.

    Harps have to be punished, the result cannot stand as it was not a valid game, Mons have to be awarded the points. Why is this so difficult?

    Are Limerick seriously trying to argue the result should stand or the game be replayed or what?
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    From my understanding: They're arguing that the player was not suspended and that therefore the result of the match should stand.
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