You only want people who put LOI games ahead of everything else in their lives to go to games? You don't think there'd be any benefit to clubs in casual (in the non-violent sense) fans going to some games as opposed to never going to games?Originally Posted by bennocelt
And your point is..............
We're not arrogant, we're just better.
I'd hazard a guess that the one club was Pats. About 4/5 people involved in the club on a day to day basis and they had a semi final to arrange for the following day.
I should point out I've no idea if Pats were the club to miss out, but they're the only ones I think that could have an excuse for not turning up.
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It could have been Mervue that didn't turn up. They're supposed to be seriously considering their position within the League of Ireland, and may resign their league status over the winter months
If Mervue do drop out, will they join the A Championship or what?
If a pyramid structure is unrealistic, at the very least the Intermediate and Junior leagues should have a pyramid structure.
I'm open to correction, but I'm not sure they exactly qualify as a "big club"...
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
There was more than one club that didn't turn up on Monday - however, by completing the questionnare, which I think clubs had for quite some time ahead of Monday night, this was counted as their vote on the night. Now, I don't know what was in the questionaire now either and I dont' know if it was just a case of asking the question 'Are you in favour of a 16 Team League?' or 'Are you in favour of a move back to Winter Football?' What I'm saying is that ONE club not only didn't bother turning up on Monday, they didn't even think it was worthwhile to vote. I don't know what clubs did/didn't make the meeting on Monday, but for the record Pats did use their vote.
The decisions of the clubs were then to be presented to the FAI at yesterday's League of Ireland Executive Meeting. Has anyone heard anything about how this meeting went?
Up the Harps!!
Why don't you just say which club it is?
Glad to hear it.
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A 16 team top tier has a lot going for it, going back to winter football I am not sure, however it is clear that crowds have not increased since the switch so it might be worth a try
Hope they don't show up tomorrow night
No, I won't be saying who it is. I was just making the point in relation to what Jicked was saying in that the smaller clubs shouldn't really have the same say as the bigger clubs. My point was that one of the bigger clubs didn't even use their vote. No point in complaining afterwards if the FAI run with the proposals submitted by the clubs.
Up the Harps!!
It'll be better than what the SPL are proposing.
They are going to have a 14 team Premier. After 26 games it'll split 6 and 8. Only top 6 then can go for the title Europa League places. Lower section advantage as they see it is that they'll have more games but surely those games will be meaningless.
On the point of the new First Division, it makes more sense to promote all five clubs, allowing a 30 game season rather than two or four (what would happen Tullamore, Carlow etc. otherwise?). The 16-team Premier seems a progressive move, but I'd agree winter football would be a step backward.
Yes but football as a "brand" should be enough in itself.
As I said before we are not a football nation and whatever switch they do it wont make any differences to attendances.
I think that the same people who make excuses in the summer are the very same ones that wont visit Bray on a winters night cause its "too cold", etc etc
The casual supporter? Sure the FAI dont even care about the real fans, look at all the stupid midweek games.
We had a top 6/bottom 6 here before too.
Disaster of an idea
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I remember those days, SPL has it these days and Wales have brought it in this season. Most leagues do go for at least 30 games, 16 team Premier will give that at least.
Whats the harm in telling us who it is?
I'm not sure a massive pyramid is the best structure to have. It'd divide the support if clubs were in the same pyramid. England can afford to do it because they have ten times the population, but I don't think we can.
I reckon Ireland can have perhaps up to 30 or 40 senior clubs, absolute tops. Each one should be the pinnacle of senior football in the area, with the other junior clubs being linked together under the umbrella of the senior club, so local cup finals played at the senior club's ground, junior clubs benefitting from the senior club's coaching facilities and staff, players being able to hold dual registration between the senior club and junior clubs, the senior club players helping with fundraising and promotion for the junior clubs, like being the special guests at raffles, and so on. I reckon in the long term this would serve Irish football better than having a more bloated pyramid with over a hundred clubs.
Edit: That's senior and junior in the Scottish sense, so not related to age, just league membership!
Last edited by peadar1987; 22/10/2010 at 4:11 PM.
I was sceptical of a pyramid as well due to size etc. When you break it down though, firstly there's no reason why there can't be a pyramid structure between the 30+ district leagues and the intermediate leagues. Once that's in place there's no reason why it wouldn't be possible to link the highest level of the intermediate league to the national league.
I think the best Ireland can do is have a Premier and First Division of 16 clubs each.
Below this then have an intermediate league North and South with 14 clubs in each.
I'm guessing you haven't been involved in the administration of a junior or intermediate club. Every league "officer" I've ever encountered treats his league as the greatest league in the world. Many involved in the LSL for example, are openly dismissive of the LOI (and indeed everything that isn't LSL). They'd rather be medium fish in their mediocre pool than acknowledge the LOI as the pinnacle of the sport here
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