QuoteLimerick badly need a move, Jackman Park isn't good enough to be attracting supporters to their games.
Well the wather at bray on monday was unreal,if thats in the winter league its only the start of the bad weather you could see how bad the pitch was on mns how can any groundsman get that back to the way it was in a week.
fan levels im sure will drematicly drop its all competing with the epl.
you cant get half of them out on a sunny night never mind a ****ing winter night.
we strugle enough against the europeen clubs wehn were midway through the season how would we get on with not even starting.
this will only damage verything this league had.
Limerick badly need a move, Jackman Park isn't good enough to be attracting supporters to their games.
I assume a 16-team league means the FAI have given up on any agreement with the Carling Premiership for a cross-border league? Not that there was much chance of it anyway.
Latest from the FAI.
FAI: relegation issue has not been decided
Wednesday, 10 November 2010 16:02
The Football Association of Ireland has moved to distance itself from suggestions that there will be no relegation from the Airtricity League Premier Division next year.
Airtricity League director Fran Gavin Gavin told newspapers that because there had been a recognition of a requirement for a bigger Premier Division in 2012, a decision on promotion/relegation in 2011 should be made quickly.
Some reports suggested that the decision not to have relegation in 2011 had already been made.
The Association released a statement which said no decision on the format of next year's competitions had been taken.
It said that quotes attributed to Gavin and reported in the media were 'personal opinions' and that the issue would be resolved by the board of the FAI only after consultation with all of the game's stakeholders.
Full text of FAI statement:
'Following today's media coverage, regarding the Airtricity League Premier Division for the 2012 season, the FAI would like to clarify the following;
'Quotes attributed to Airtricity League Director, Fran Gavin in many of today's papers about the possible expansion of the Airtricity League Premier Division were personal opinions expressed to the media.
'The FAI Board are considering next year's format and no decision has yet been made. Any decision which is expected in the coming month will be made after consultation with all stakeholders in the game.'
Not the first time gavin has spoken as league head honcho only for the FAi to say he was actually giving his personal opinions
I didn't believe them then either
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There's nowt wrong with it. He's entitled to give his opinion. The FAI do have to go through the formalities and procedures before they make their announcement so it's right that they do clarify their position at this moment.
think its more a case of fran representing what the clubs, officials.supporters etc want and the fai saying john has'nt decided yet
I wish i did not know then what I dont know now
So the week after licensing and before the season starts?Originally Posted by FAI: relegation issue has not been decided
Why would we want to look into a cross border league, we need to increase the standard not decrease it. The majority of clubs in the carling 'premiership' would be at very best FD standard in our league.
Check bbc ni around 5pm each sat to see why.
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Have heard Delaney supports a 13 team premier playing each other 3 times a season thus retaining the 36 game season.
Unlucky for some.
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If they want to retain 36 games, they could go with a 16 club Premier and have 4 groups of 4 for the league cup with a final in the Aviva and a Europa League place to go with it.
If First Division and/or A sides were to be included, they could to with 6 or 7 groups of 4 but the number of teams would have to be a multiple of 4 to work for a tournament format.
What is this obsession with 36 games? It's still repeating fixtures over and over.
Germany only play 34. I think we should only play thirty. Financially it would allow the teams to save money without having to host so many games that no one show up to but they still have to pay for Electricity, Gardaí, security etc. and with the lack of games gate should easily increase over time.
I don't think groups in the League Cup would make a difference and I don't understand why people here are so gung ho about it. Groups create boring dead rubbers.
I don't even think we should have a league cup in it's current format though. Our Association Cup isn't as extensive of a competition to warrant a second knock out tournament or a third if you are in Leinster.
I always think of this as an option:
Premier Division 16 teams playing on a home and away basis With first getting a Champions League Place and 2nd to fifth playing off for a Europa League place a la Netherlands.
FAI Cup as it presently exists with a Europa League Place.
Provincial League Cup a la the LSC
League cup containing all of the semi finalists of the Provincial League Cups with the winner gaining a Europa League place
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A 3 fixture schedule is just messy. I don't like it. I realise clubs need games for revenue but it would really help avoid some of the awful fixture congestion we tend to get near the end of the season if it was a 30-34 game season, particularly now that most of the teams are back to being part time.
We should be looking to play fewer games not more. We played 46 games this season which is crazy for part-timers. 30 league games in fine for Portugal and Russia and 28 for Belgium. 36 league games is too many.
Exactly. but it's the typical Irish short-termism that sees 36 games * x = money money money rather than what many here can see are the advantages of playing less games.
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Belgium play 30 games actually. 2009–10 they only played 28 because Mouscron were relegated due to the club's financial problems, which caused them to forfeit three consecutive matches. Their record was expunged.
36 games is what is being played at the moment. Some might want less games but others would want to hold on to that number of games. I've no problems with 30 games if that's the way they decide to go.
The League Cup can have value if run well. Lets say for argument sake the league developed that it had two divisions of 16 each. If there was a league cup run with 8 groups of 4, Division One sides would get 4 games against Premier sides. Those high-profile games would be good for the second tier clubs while the top sides would most likely be eyeing a group win and Europa qualification in the latter. Also with the Aviva, the final should be staged in the Aviva.
On what you always think as an option:
I'd agree on the 16 team Premier. The play-off system for the Europa League sounds good as well.
FAI Cup, standard for every country, no arguments there.
I like the idea of going the route of a Provincial League Cup. You'll be going down the route of GAA arguments though where some provinces have it easier than others.
Hate to have to pop that bubble lad but we also have a third Cup tournament down here too, and have had for quite a bit over 100 years, including the ten seasons from 2000-2009 when ye didn't bother. F**king hell!
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Would prefer a League where teams played each other twice - home and away - in League matches. The problem is that decreasing the number of games does mean less income for clubs (or an increase in crowds for lesser number of games which is far from guaranteed) or increasing the number of teams to include teams/clubs maybe not up to the required standard (on or off the pitch).
Allowing for the various cup competitions clubs can play each other 4/5 times a season which is hardly ideal. Best option I can see is 14/15 team Prem with home/away games for each. This would result in 26/28 league games a season which would be a drop from 36.
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