FAI Cup semis

[Model Club]

Of course you are worth the effort and hassle and no matter what anybody says nearly all fans from other clubs look forward to playing rovers than anyone else. Proper segregation tool? Is a piece of tape a better segregation tool than a tie-wrapped fence? This was all that was in place in Tallaght. Are you really suggesting that Rovers fans need to be fenced in? No ground in Ireland has steal fences between fans so these grounds are all at fault if Rovers fans do the same thing again?

But the "tape"in place in Tallaght is adequete.At bohs games it becomes a bit more advanced after it was breached in the first derby game in Tallaght.The security didnt work that day was reviewed and improved.

Why does the "fault" of any incident have to fall on one party only?
Granted something has to spark an incident but plans are in place should this spark occur and for me these plans are wholey inadequete and in typical Irish fashion are only ever improved when an incident happens-

Seat belts on school buses only bacame law when 5 young girls were killed in a Navan bus crash a few years ago-This pattern also follows into LOI security arrangements with the improved gate in Dundalk after events earlier this season,the fence at the OB end of Tallaght stadium after the one man attack on Rogers.Ive atteneded LOi games for over 20 years and have witnesses all of the reactionary changes slowly but surely being implemented always after issues and never before.

Fenced in is a bit harsh as I cant remember a pitch invasion for many a year before tuesday so IMO fences would be OTT unless a habit of such actions becomes apparant.
Proper segregation is a must and IIRC is a directive of licenscing.Surley prevention is better than intervention,I mean could you ever invisage Rovers and Dundalk mixing in the shed?.................No,me either.

[sundance kid]

for the final? 10 euro apparently.

Definitely a tenner. They're advertised on ticketmaster now.

[PartySaint]

Mother Teresa Alert!!



None of the incidents involving our fans happen in Tallaght.* They always happen at away grounds, where the security operation is either OTT or inadequate.

The club does take action against individuals identified, but said individuals don't give a sht, and if anything, see it as a badge of honour. ("here Deco, look at me ban I got, hehehe") We are the biggest club in the country that bring the biggest gates, and most fans behave themselves exemplary, but as with other big clubs around the world, there will always be an element that go to games with more interest in the opposition fans than the football.

I was first exposed to this going on in 1993, and it's something that I have to live with. If I couldn't accept it, I'd probably be watching a more family-friendly sport. As much as it's difficult having to live with it, it's a relatively rare occurrence these days and it's not going to put me off supporting Rovers.

*one drunk loon excepted.

So the stewarding is either to good or to bad and that's why Rovers fans cause trouble??

[HulaHoop]

So the stewarding is either to good or to bad and that's why Rovers fans cause trouble??

Prevention is better than cure. If the stewards had done their job and stopped the little scrotes from getting onto the pitch in the first place there wouldn't have been any incidents. That doesn't excuse what they did when they got onto the pitch and the club should be trying to identify them and stop them coming to matches in future but the fact remains - stop them getting on the pitch and you stop any potential trouble.

Blame on two parties here - firstly the idiots who tried and suceeded in getting onto the pitch and secondly the Guards and stewards for not having a Plan A of preventing a pitch invasion and not having a Plan B of diffusing a pitch invasion when it happened into becoming an angry confrontation between rival fans. Amateur hour organisation that would be laughed at on the continent. I dread to think what would happen if two rival temas get to the Europa cup final.

[dfx-]

I've been tempted to go to a few Rovers away games but I am put off by incidents like those in Dundalk and Inchicore. I came in to work the other day to an email asking me was I involved in the "trouble" in Inchicore, and that's not something I really want to be associated with (even if it does make me Mother Theresa).

Go to any non-Dublin Rovers away game except Dundalk and maybe Derry and you'll soon prefer the away games just as much as Tallaght now.

[celticV3]

Go to any non-Dublin Rovers away game except Dundalk and maybe Derry and you'll soon prefer the away games just as much as Tallaght now.

Not leaving much options there are ya?

[Hibs4Ever]

Not leaving much options there are ya?

it means passinginterest was safe to go to Galway or Drogheda this season

[Jicked]

For anyone keeping score, the above means 24 of Hibs4Ever's last 30 posts in the LoI section have been slagging off Shamrock Rovers. Of the other 6, four were score/attendance updates.

Keep up the great contribution pal!

[celticV3]

For anyone keeping score, the above means 24 of Hibs4Ever's last 30 posts in the LoI section have been slagging off Shamrock Rovers. Of the other 6, four were score/attendance updates.

Keep up the great contribution pal!

Credit to Shams fans for giving everyone so much to talk about off the field.

[mypost]

I've been tempted to go to a few Rovers away games but I am put off by incidents like those in Dundalk and Inchicore. I came in to work the other day to an email asking me was I involved in the "trouble" in Inchicore, and that's not something I really want to be associated with (even if it does make me Mother Theresa).

I know it's not particularly rational, I'm more aware than most curious observers of the fact that "hooliganism" in the League of Ireland is a greatly exaggerated phenomenon, but I can't help feeling that if it's still putting me off then it's definitely putting off a lot of potential supporters who are less clued in to these things.

I greatly admire a lot of what Shamrock Rovers has done, and is doing, within the Tallaght and wider South Dublin community but I do feel the club has to do more to weed out the neanderthals that continue to drag the name through the mud. I realise it's not easy and the bigger the crowds get the more potential there is for individual morons to start incidents but it needs to be done. I'm not talking about sterilisation of the atmoshpere either, just tighter controls on the lunatic fringe

The club does what it can, inquiries are set up, people are identified and punished, but we're not the police, and there's a limit to what the club can do. Incidents tend to happen at certain grounds for reasons I've already highlighted. Never ever in Tallaght. About Dundalk, there is never any trouble when we're home to Dundalk, only at away games. Tallaght is a state-of-the-art stadium, Oriel is a hostile environment, an inadequate stadium with poor facilities, and the slightest thing can spark an incident. Not just when we're around.

As regards the email, I wonder what kind of answer they expected. And what the response would have been to that answer. Much ado about nothing methinks. After the O'Connell Street riots, thanks to media lies, I was approached by a supplier in work afterwards, about whether I was involved. All I could do was laugh at his stupidity/ignorance, who put 2+2 together and got 22.

Security is improved after some incidents, but the response to the drunkard in Tallaght this year was one of the most OTT I've ever seen. 7 months later, it's sadly still there, even though the threat posed by it not there is non-existent.

[Hibs4Ever]

For anyone keeping score

Doubt anyone else would be that sad. Though keep up the great contribution pal!

[bullit]

About Dundalk, there is never any trouble when we're home to Dundalk, only at away games. Tallaght is a state-of-the-art stadium, Oriel is a hostile environment, an inadequate stadium with poor facilities, and the slightest thing can spark an incident. Not just when we're around.

Next year we"ll whisper our chants,cushion the seats with rose petals and have complimentry chocolates,teddy bears and puppies on hand for ALL visiting fans.

Will you gayy wayyyyyyy ourra that!!

[PartySaint]

For anyone keeping score, the above means 24 of Hibs4Ever's last 30 posts in the LoI section have been slagging off Shamrock Rovers. Of the other 6, four were score/attendance updates.

Keep up the great contribution pal!

'No one likes us we dont care'

[fionnsci]

Incidents tend to happen at certain grounds for reasons I've already highlighted. Never ever in Tallaght.

In your two years in Tallaght, you have had a bottle hit a linesman and a fan confront a player during the match. Neither has happened at any other ground these last two years. Never EVER in Tallaght.....?

[mypost]

In your two years in Tallaght, you have had a bottle hit a linesman and a fan confront a player during the match. Neither has happened at any other ground these last two years. Never EVER in Tallaght.....?

The fan issue was highlighted. Keep up at the back.

The single bottle accident is not crowd trouble.

[Rasputin]

The fan issue was highlighted. Keep up at the back.

The single bottle accident is not crowd trouble.

Surreal, just surreal.

[Hibs4Ever]

Probably as accidental as the monkey chants

[placid casual]

if you all feel that strongly about Rovers fans then do something about it.
For away games to tallaght , just dont go. believe me the presence of away fans in tallaght, bar the junkies is completly negligible anyway.
and for your home games, get on to your teams head of finances and insist Rovers fans should be banned from the games. and then wait for them to laugh in your faces.

if all else fails youse could shut the fook up.

[OneForTheFuture]

Placid me hole!

[Rasputin]

get on to your teams head of finances and insist Rovers fans should be banned from the games. and then wait for them to laugh in your faces.

We survived 4 years ago when you brought 1 or 2 hundred to the showgies and we can survive without you in the future.
I could be wrong but I seem to remember a club official coming out stating that if your lot replicated the scenes there a season ago he would have no problem banning your travelling support.
The sheer arrogance that Shams seem to think clubs very survival hangs on their presence.