Beecher Networks - Web Development, Hosting & Domains
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 21 to 33 of 33

Thread: The Media & Brian Lenihan

  1. #21
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Black Earth, Russia
    Posts
    3,178
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    2,739
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    584
    Thanked in
    398 Posts
    I went to bed before Prime Time came on this Thursday (I was on night feed duty and needed the z's) but I'm not surprised that he has once again escaped scrutiny. When he was asked, as a legal professional, to make a proper statement in the Dail as to the needs of banks etc by Joan Burton, he feigned outrage and was protected, and surprisingly she backed off. Since last Christmas he's been given such a soft landing, and at the time I was disgusted with Cowen, using a sick man to deliver bad news as it would be better received (sure god help him, he's not got long left). Now, this week, and please somebody back me on this, it slipped into the media that he got the cancer all clear! Now, I follow politics and have friends working in the Dail, but I didn't even know he was in remission, nor does he wear a wig - so he mustn't have had radio or chemo-therapy (again I could be completely disproved as I'm puzzled). He has no clue about finance and the people he brought in to help, and those he appointed to oversee banks, are completely unsuited. AIB is in a terrible mess and when you look at the composition of the board I'm not surprised. All the crooks are still in place.

    I don't know if how his father was treated means a great deal to the current media, though it can't be discounted, but he too was as big a crook as his boss Haughey, who hung him out to dry. But the Lenihan clan (Mammy O'Rourke, Conor and Brian) are symptomatic of what is wrong with our political system. How many are in the Dail on merit, and how many are there because of their Daddy? Our Taoiseach is there because his Daddy died at a young age (almost the same as Biffo is now), our Minister for Finance is there for the same reason, his Daddy passed on his seat to him. So the two people who can turn the country around have about as much qualification for doing so as any other TD's who get in on the family ticket. And therein lies the problem. We state we're a democratic and advanced nation, but we're no better than the -stans, where you rule the country because you are head of the biggest tribe, and all the public rep's are little more than local yokels who head their tribe.

    We won't progress once the media continue to toe the line from FF. Is it a surprise that one of the most embarassing international incidents (the Leno show) was whitewashed from RTE TV? Then again, our national broadcaster is populated with the grinning goons and buffoons who are either from political clans or who are the latest in a long line of civil servants doing their duty in RTE. We're too small to change and even a full scale revolution will still see status quo restored.

  2. #22
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Black Earth, Russia
    Posts
    3,178
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    2,739
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    584
    Thanked in
    398 Posts
    Just watched the interview on Primetime, am I alone in thinking he was being given a free ride by Miriam? I mean, when she asked about worst case scenario - he repeatedly refused to talk about it. His fake outrage is a simple technique used by the guilty or troubled, and he's a disgrace. He has to go, he hasn't a clue and repeatedly mixed up concepts. There is an unbroken of discredited and corrupt Ministers of Finance leading up to Lenihan, who is simply a suit with a name. I can't believe this is being allowed happen.

  3. #23
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    3,262
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    137
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    218
    Thanked in
    161 Posts
    Francine Lacqua interviewed Lenny for Bloomberg on Thursday morning. She made him look a complete spoofer. Unlike O'Callaghan she had all her facts straight. Every time Lenihan answered a question he wasn't asked she would just return to the question shakng her head until she got him to answer.

  4. #24
    Youth Team hedderman's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Dublin
    Posts
    118
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    43
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    16
    Thanked in
    10 Posts
    Just listening to the interview with Lenihan on Bloomberg. I think there is far too much emphasis on restoring Ireland's banking system to its "greatness."
    Robbie Hedderman. Arguably the greatest Derry City player of all time...

  5. #25
    Director dahamsta's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2001
    Location
    The Internet
    Posts
    14,046
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    519
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    855
    Thanked in
    522 Posts
    http://www.bloomberg.com/video/63376088/

    Lenihan looks like the newsreader in Batman when Jack Nicholson's joker forced Gotham to take all cosmetics off the shelves. I think he needs a few days off for himself. Australia's nice this time of year. Bog off Lenihan.

  6. #26
    International Prospect Kingdom's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Teeing off
    Posts
    5,034
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    6,659
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,071
    Thanked in
    634 Posts
    Conclosure. That's a new word surely?
    Here they come! It’s the charge of the “Thanks” Brigade!

  7. #27
    Banned. Children Banned. Grandchildren Banned. 3 Months. Charlie Darwin's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    18,577
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    3,890
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    5,310
    Thanked in
    3,368 Posts
    The cancer is obviously a big factor. I think the media are as confused as the rest of us of how to deal with it, but I suspect they have the added pressure of, god forbid he does take a turn for the worse, taking the blame for his worsening condition.

    I think Miriam did OK, actually. She's one of the few political journalists on TV in this country who's not obsessed with getting her face in front of the camera and despite her brother's position I don't think she's ever shown a political bias. But Lenihan is a very forceful speaker and has the ability to stun interviewers, but I think a lot of people around the country will have come to similar conclusions as people here and thought he came across as a bully. Personally, I suspect if the interviewer had been a man we wouldn't be hearing words like "bully" thrown around, but that's another discussion.

    I think Lenihan's name is bandied about as being a potential statesman not because he's a particular credible politician (contradiction in terms perhaps) but because he is very decisive and, as we saw in the Prime Time interview, has the ability to win a debate despite clearly being in the wrong. A lot of successful leaders around the world have the same qualities (but not the same handicap of being in Fianna Fail).

  8. #28
    Godless Commie Scum
    Joined
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Co Wickla
    Posts
    11,396
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    138
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    656
    Thanked in
    436 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    and despite her brother's position I don't think she's ever shown a political bias.
    Hmmm, don't agree with that, I think she's very soft on Government Ministers imo. Her production company's "documentaries" on Haughey and Ahern hardly dispelled any accusations either.

    I think Lenihan came across just as bad in the interview with Vincent Brown. Not sure I'd say bullying, just a pig ignorant spin merchant trying to rewrite his own history.

    As for the wider media, a lot of the main commentators are basically FF supporters. They simply have to have someone in FF to champion, even if the evidence doesn't support their case. Interestingly, I detect a slight shift from Lenihan to Martin in recent weeks as their saviour.
    If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.

  9. #29
    Now with extra sauce! Dodge's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Insomnia
    Posts
    23,528
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    663
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2,676
    Thanked in
    1,454 Posts
    Because they all know that Martin is the next leader. Lenihan simply couldn't handle the job (physically). They've started to lay the groundwork that Martin is the new hope...
    54,321 sold - wws will never die - ***
    ---
    New blog if anyone's interested - http://loihistory.wordpress.com/
    LOI section on balls.ie - http://balls.ie/league-of-ireland/

  10. #30
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Black Earth, Russia
    Posts
    3,178
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    2,739
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    584
    Thanked in
    398 Posts
    I didn't think Lenihan won on Primetime, he just looked like a complete cretin, the type you find in a pub who has about as much intelligence as a saturated barmat. His refusal to look at the worst case scenario - and the manner in which he did it, was embarassing. Miriam could have been stronger, but RTE are in fear of their lives and are not going to bite off the hand that is feeding it.

  11. #31
    Seasoned Pro OneRedArmy's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2004
    Location
    London-Derry-Dublin
    Posts
    4,893
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    84
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    140
    Thanked in
    82 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Because they all know that Martin is the next leader. Lenihan simply couldn't handle the job (physically). They've started to lay the groundwork that Martin is the new hope...
    In fairness, Martin is the "old" new hope. He was the new hope a decade ago before his star fell at the height of the 'Bertie, Biffo and jobs for cronies' period. Isn't the generally accepted view that Biffo doesn't like him as he's thought of as being a bit over-intellectual? (recognising that in FF-world, its all relative......)

  12. #32
    International Prospect osarusan's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Scotland
    Posts
    8,031
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,219
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,823
    Thanked in
    1,025 Posts
    He takes a bit of a hit in today's Irish Times:

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...280400401.html
    Unable to admit putting his country in this hideous mess, Brian Lenihan has turned further and further away from reality, writes FINTAN O'TOOLE

    WHEN SOMEONE says a thing once, it may be a slip of the tongue. When they repeat it, it is an indication of the way their mind is working.

    Thus it is with a phrase that Brian Lenihan used twice last Thursday, when he was explaining why “the cheapest bank bailout in the world” has turned into a €50 billion nightmare. The glimpse it gives of what is going on at the back of his mind is truly terrifying.
    EDIT: As I re-read it, actually he's being savaged throughout the article.
    Last edited by osarusan; 05/10/2010 at 8:47 AM.

  13. #33
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Black Earth, Russia
    Posts
    3,178
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    2,739
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    584
    Thanked in
    398 Posts
    Cue an article in his defence somewhere else, plus another one about FG in crisis!

Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12

Similar Threads

  1. Brian Lenihan
    By TheOneWhoKnocks in forum Ireland
    Replies: 50
    Last Post: 04/10/2018, 10:12 AM
  2. Brian Lenihan reported to have pancreatic cancer
    By Poor Student in forum Current Affairs
    Replies: 41
    Last Post: 10/01/2010, 10:24 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •