Ciaran Clark D Free agent b.1989

[Manblue]

The more I see him the more I have to agree with Doc unfortunately.

Positioning poor again tonight, no a leader (yet), very rash tackler...not the long term solution

[the doc]

The more I see him the more I have to agree with Doc unfortunately.

Positioning poor again tonight, no a leader (yet), very rash tackler...not the long term solution

Thought he was just like Beckenbauer in his pomp tonight.

Everyone eventually ends up agreeing with me in the end, I know my football and can spot a Dud when I see one!

[Charlie Darwin]

I was impressed Clark was passing the ball tonight instead of aimlessly lumping it like the first leg, but once Bradford scored, all leadership was lost and he ended up pumping in endless diagonal balls to Bent and Benteke. Clark is a good, good player but he needs experienced players around him to talk to him because he's not making good decisions. Vlaar isn't that, and they badly need Dunne back.

Ironically, I think Clark would fare very well alongside a leader like the doc, if only he'd give him a chance.

[the doc]

I was impressed Clark was passing the ball tonight instead of aimlessly lumping it like the first leg, but once Bradford scored, all leadership was lost and he ended up pumping in endless diagonal balls to Bent and Benteke. Clark is a good, good player but he needs experienced players around him to talk to him because he's not making good decisions. Vlaar isn't that, and they badly need Dunne back.

Ironically, I think Clark would fare very well alongside a leader like the doc, if only he'd give him a chance.

I think Villa fans who watch him regularly should know more than we do about him.

http://www.heroesandvillains.info/fo....60#msg2240595

[DannyInvincible]

Just reading the latest page of that thread (page 5) and the criticism is pretty damning.

[Paddy Garcia]

I think Villa fans who watch him regularly should know more than we do about him.

http://www.heroesandvillains.info/fo....60#msg2240595

I found that forum somewhat crude.

[Charlie Darwin]

I'm sure you could find many threads from earlier in the season where they talk about how good he is. Club forums are generally quite fickle. When his form picks up the same people will be saying they never doubted him for a second.

[SkStu]

Irrespective of his current or past form, a couple of fools here need to drop their needless agenda as it relates to him. Quite pathetic. Worse than the british tabloids...

[the doc]

Irrespective of his current or past form, a couple of fools here need to drop their needless agenda as it relates to him. Quite pathetic. Worse than the british tabloids...

Why is someone a fool if they have a different opinion to another poster?

Most people on here were making out he was they next Paul McGrath, when in reality he's just another Alex Bruce type of player.

Harsh but true!

[SkStu]

Nobody was making that out. That is a figment of your imagination. Thereby, foolish, some would say.

[the doc]

Oh well enough of all this!
We have important qualifying games to win against Sweden and Austria, so lets get behind the boys in green.
I will be there giving it 100%
Will you?

[Yard of Pace]

I'm sure you could find many threads from earlier in the season where they talk about how good he is. Club forums are generally quite fickle. When his form picks up the same people will be saying they never doubted him for a second.

Club forums aren't worth an absolute damn, imo, unless you find a poster who talks sense (very difficult when most of them have a gigantic amount of posters). The English team I support....for every ten people who'll say one thing, another ten will disagree with them. And this about pretty much EVERYTHING. They're madhouses. I look in on the Hibs one usually also. One week Paddy Fenlon is the greatest manager in Scotland and needs to be protected from being poached by an English club, the next his lot can't beat Ross County and he's out of his depth and not the man for the job.

[SkStu]

Oh well enough of all this!
We have important qualifying games to win against Sweden and Austria, so lets get behind the boys in green.
I will be there giving it 100%
Will you?

110%.

[paul_oshea]

He wont be there, but he will be giving it 110% Doc, thats what he is saying.

[SkStu]

My life has reached an all time low... Paul O'Shea clarifies one of my posts...

[SwanVsDalton]

I think Villa fans who watch him regularly should know more than we do about him.

http://www.heroesandvillains.info/fo....60#msg2240595

Yup. Trustworthy opinion. A bunch of flip flopping keyboard warriors most of whom watch MOTD or a thumbnail size choppy screen and would write Paul McGrath off after a poor game.

Clark can play, even if he is inexperienced, raw and tottering on the deck of a sinking ship. Whether he's finished ala James McClean remains to be seen.

[Charlie Darwin]

Yup. Trustworthy opinion. A bunch of flip flopping keyboard warriors most of whom watch MOTD or a thumbnail size choppy screen and would write Paul McGrath off after a poor game.

Clark can play, even if he is inexperienced, raw and tottering on the deck of a sinking ship. Whether he's finished ala like James McClean remains to be seen.

Shane Duffy's finished too now.

[the doc]

Yup. Trustworthy opinion. A bunch of flip flopping keyboard warriors most of whom watch MOTD or a thumbnail size choppy screen and would write Paul McGrath off after a poor game.
.

A case of the Kettle calling the Pot black here me thinks.

[ifk101]

A case of the Kettle calling the Pot black here me thinks.

Aye yes the reported Preston fan that holds Villa and Leicester City season tickets. Life long Irish fan since 2009 to boot.

[SwanVsDalton]

Shane Duffy's finished too now.

Once they hit 21, they're a lost cause.

A case of the Kettle calling the Pot black here me thinks.

I'm not the one submitting internet forums as 'Exhibit A' in the 'Ciaran Clark is Alex Bruce in disguise' argument.