confirmed Vlaar signing for Villa: http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetai...867916,00.html
Don't think anyone really knows where Clark's best position is between CB, LB and CM. Will be interesting to see where Lambert puts him but him with Collins, Cuellar cleared out and both Warnock and Hutton told they can leave its good news for him that the Trash is being cleared to give him more opportunities.
I know, he's a centre half.
How many on here have seen Clark play regularly?
He not a bad player, too rash in the tackle, can see him getting sent off lots if he ever played at international senior level.
Not in the same class as Dunne and St Ledger, and no better than ODea or the Ginger Pele.
Bit unfair to say he's not in the same class as players 5 and 10 years older than him. I could foresee Richard Dunne getting sent off a lot at international level too as he is, among other things, too rash in the tackle, yet as far as I know it hadn't happened up until last year.
I have seen him play quite regularly and while he is rash in tackles (he's young and inexperienced), he's defo on st ledgers level and far better than O Dea or Mcshane....cant exactly see one of those two being given ago in midfield which he has done quite comfortably on more than one occasion...and his defensive qualities are on par with both these (which doesn't say much)Originally Posted by the doc
BTW since when are Dunne and St Ledger in the same class...do you think St Ledger will ever play consistently in the premier league...cause I don't....and with Dunnes injury its a great opportunity for Clarke to stake a claim.
You're not in the same class as Richard Dunne. You're talking about a chap that has 70 odd caps to his name and, with the exception of one season, has played regularly in the top flight of English football. You warm the bench in the Championship, day-dreaming of fantasy transfers to Serie A.
Shades of 'Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy, I knew Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy' there, IFK
Ouch!!!
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Of course I'm not onbtgr same class as Dunne I've been retired from the game for years now.
This is forum, I give my opinions on what I think, nothing more nothing less.
Unlike you who just look for confrontation without what appears to have any basic knowledge or experience in the game.
As for SSL, when has he ever let Ireland down? Highest ranking player for Ireland in the Euros and 3 goals in 30 games isn't too bad either for a CB (or Championshio bench warmer as you call him)
All scored I'm important games too!
Who are you fooling Sean?
You're not in the same class as Dunne. You're in the same class as O'Dea and McShane.
You have scored three goals from set-play moves in games we did not win. Andrews was our player of the Euros.As for SSL, when has he ever let Ireland down? Highest ranking player for Ireland in the Euros and 3 goals in 30 games isn't too bad either for a CB (or Championshio bench warmer as you call him)
All scored I'm importantgames too!
Last edited by ifk101; 02/08/2012 at 3:42 PM.
Regardless of whether Doc is SSL or just a stalker, I think he's right that SSL has been a consistently good performer for us.
But is he in the same class as Dunne? I respect your opinion Stuttgart88 but disagree about SSL. If we want to improve the team, SSL is a player that needs to replaced. He's slow, poor in the air, has terrible distribution and has lapses in concentration on a regular basis.
Dunne's our best but I think SSL is a good player. I have to say, based on his Irish performances, that he could play at one of the EPL's lesser lights. I mean if Cauldwell can...
I respect your opinion too so think we'll have to agree to disagree!
WTF? Are you for real? Any goals a good goal, set play or not as long as it hits the back of the Onion sack.
Speaking of sacks, isn't it about time you went back to playing with yours and leave this forum to people who know about football and go to matches.
Get back to your job in the village, you bore me!
If doc is SSL doesn't he deserve a bit more respect on here for wearing the green jersey with pride? I'm just asking because I think it's likely he is SSL and Man Blue is Stephen Ireland.
With all that anger and bitterness emanating from your posts ifk I've also sussed that you are Roy Keane.
SSL has been a huge success for Ireland. Don't know why his is being attacked by some posters. His club game has had some ups and downs, but he has never let Ireland down and long may it continue.
Always look on the bright side of life
I've just been reading Clark's thread over on the Villa Talk forum and it seems he has been given the number 6 shirt by the new manager.
Hopefully that signifies he'll be regular in the first team this season.
Last edited by The Fly; 02/08/2012 at 9:24 PM.
Bad centre-backs will eventually get found out at international level if they're given a run in the team - they'll drop a clanger in an important game, give away a penalty, get the runaround from a good striker or get caught badly out of position. That hasn't really happened to St. Ledger for us. He's been solid, and we missed him against Macedonia when O'Shea and O'Dea were at CB. My preference would be for a Dunne-O'Shea partnership, but SSL certainly isn't one of the players we need to get rid of.
Well if you believe it is likely that the doc is SSL you should have a read of previous posts and his opinions on other players wearing the green jersey with pride. the doc also let us know SSL was eligible for the North if not picked.
It may read as anger and bitterness but at the end of the day I want the same thing everyone else here wants. We lost all three games at the Euros, comprehensively beaten in all three, so everyone knows we need change to move on. Moving on is changing tactics and players. I don't think we should continue with two holding midfielders and the protection we currently give our centre halfs through playing with two holding midfielders. Changing will expose our centre halfs more and this is where there is a worry in playing somebody of SSL's ability. Because of this SSL is one of the players I believe needs to be replaced. Dunne is a player we need to keep around. SSL isn't in the same class as Dunne. There's no anger or bitterness in stating that fact.
Last edited by ifk101; 03/08/2012 at 6:41 AM.
Theres no difference between the lower 12 teams in the Prem and the top half of the Championship.
I'd play Macca or Daz ahead of Clark as they have more experience at international level.
The grass isnt always greener!
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