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    For those interested in such matters, I highly recommend Brian Friel's excellent play Translations which deals with the anglicisation of Irish place names and surnames in the early 1800s. But for those commenting on the dumping of Ciarán Ó Cléirigh, the diversion again underscores the ambivalence with which the majority of Irish supporters have towards probably our most undervalued EPL regular ever. But they can feel comforted by the fact the most overvalued manager ever agrees with them.
    Last edited by Snapshot; 16/12/2021 at 5:10 AM. Reason: literal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snapshot View Post
    But they can feel comforted by the fact the most overvalued manager ever agrees with them.
    Thanks Snappers & I'll take the liberty of speaking for all cult SK members in assuring you how comfortable we indeed are. Cosy even.

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    You've every right to be cosy - it's a low bar.

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    I remember tweeting something about Westwood's name being spelled wrong on a team sheet and the man himself replied saying something along the lines of 'it's easy: it starts with a K, ends with an N and has Eire in the middle.'

    Which was class!
    Folding my way into the big money!!!

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    ...anyway, played yesterday, wasn't great. Won't be a premier league player for too much longer, one way or another.

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    absolute howler for City's opener, even if the keeper was at fault too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    absolute howler for City's opener, even if the keeper was at fault too.
    Yes, it was awful, though Clark's movement suggests the keeper called for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exgrad View Post
    ...anyway, played yesterday, wasn't great. Won't be a premier league player for too much longer, one way or another.
    Looked in his own world there in that game,absolute howler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the 12 th man View Post
    Looked in his own world there in that game,absolute howler.
    Complete stinker. Was awful for the Cancelo goal as well.

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    57% of brain farts attempted were successful.
    Massive jump to 66% successful brain farts now.

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    He's at rock bottom. Let's all put the boot in.
    Last edited by Snapshot; 21/12/2021 at 3:49 AM. Reason: simplification for brain-fart aficionados

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    Sorry, what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snapshot View Post
    He's at rock bottom. Let's all put the boot in.
    He'a a grown man getting huge money to play football,what are you on about?

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    It does seem that some people are taking perverse pleasure in the discomfiture of a player passed over by Kenny. Is there a bit of an agenda there? He had a bad game playing in a bad team, low on confidence and rooted at the bottom of the league. Not sure how this negates his entire PL career?

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    Don't forget Duffys time at Celtic and how things have changed for him. Hopefully same will happen here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by third policeman View Post
    It does seem that some people are taking perverse pleasure in the discomfiture of a player passed over by Kenny. Is there a bit of an agenda there? He had a bad game playing in a bad team, low on confidence and rooted at the bottom of the league. Not sure how this negates his entire PL career?
    4 posts above acknowledging a bad game, one poking fun in keeping with a silly joke made by me earlier. I don't think it's anything particularly thematic. I'd say it's more accurate to suggest that the good form of some senior players and the need to integrate younger players, who have all acquitted themselves well when given the chance, has made Clark a marginal figure. I'm not perturbed by his absence from the squad, nor would I be particularly disappointed if he was in it. It's just a marginal call but a few posters seem to think it's not marginal at all. If I was to choose I'd prioritise Omobamidele, O'Shea and Collins and I'd also look to prioritise Scales and Lenihan. Manning I'm not sure about. Doherty (as LWB cover), Coleman, Duffy and Egan (as CBs) speak for themselves and Stevens is good enough LB/LB cover for now. I'll always have the jitters about JMcC at LWB!

    I wish Clark nothing but good luck whenever he plays.

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    I've seen people mention him as LB/LWB cover. I don't know if you've seen him play in recent years, but in no way would he be able to cover that position.

    Just because he's left footed doesn't make him cover for wing back. He's about as much cover for LB as John Egan is for RB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    I wish Clark nothing but good luck whenever he plays.
    You see, that is just something that i assume that this is the default for every poster on here as it relates to Irish players. That, even if we don't particularly rate a player, we all wish them the absolute best in their careers and in every game - limitations and all. I know I do.

    On Clark, i am sure my posts on here over the years would back up my fondness for him and that i rate him overall as a player. But when a player has a stinker, they have a stinker. Pointing that out, isn't "sticking the boot in", is not rooted in an agenda and isn't intended to "negate his entire PL career". Talk about melodramatic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    4 posts above acknowledging a bad game, one poking fun in keeping with a silly joke made by me earlier. I don't think it's anything particularly thematic. I'd say it's more accurate to suggest that the good form of some senior players and the need to integrate younger players, who have all acquitted themselves well when given the chance, has made Clark a marginal figure. I'm not perturbed by his absence from the squad, nor would I be particularly disappointed if he was in it. It's just a marginal call but a few posters seem to think it's not marginal at all. If I was to choose I'd prioritise Omobamidele, O'Shea and Collins and I'd also look to prioritise Scales and Lenihan. Manning I'm not sure about. Doherty (as LWB cover), Coleman, Duffy and Egan (as CBs) speak for themselves and Stevens is good enough LB/LB cover for now. I'll always have the jitters about JMcC at LWB!

    I wish Clark nothing but good luck whenever he plays.
    Lenihan probably playing his best football this season and Blackburn only three points behind leaders Fulham. Would be fantastic to see Lenihan in the PL next season and you've got Jimmy Dunne and QPR who are fifth in the table. Top of the championship getting very interesting with Fulham and Bournemouth dropping points and teams below them showing great forum.

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    No player is above criticism,Clarke has been poor for a while now and went from a straight red to an awful performance in his next game back,he's a hard working likable guy but a very limited player at Premier/International level.


    This is a football forum for debate,opinion etc..

    If you want to see vitriol about Clark have a peek at the Newcastle FC forums...

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