Smokin Ban

**davyboy** · 27/04/2004, 3:12 PM

Is this smokin ban gettin anybody else down. It seems to me goin to the boozer during the week to watch the match and have a few gargles in piece has become a bit of a pain in the ******. Doors swinging open all the time' people comin in and out all the time' conversations being broken because your mate has to step outside for a ****in smoke. Micheal martin(*****). Ban the ban i say and if you dont like smoke dont go to the ****in pub. The least they could have done was compromise. The bar for smoking and the lounge smoke-free. No one could argue with that. But no we're being told what to do like we are ****in schoolkids again. We have to be carefull how much of this dictating we take. It could get out of controll. YOU'VE BEEN WARNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. AND VOTE AGAINST FF

**tiktok** · 27/04/2004, 3:20 PM

Originally Posted by davyboy

.....The bar for smoking and the lounge smoke-free. No one could argue with that....

But the central argument for the ban was the protection of the health of barstaff from second hand smoke. If you have a smoking section then the staff are still exposed.
On top of this, not all pubs have a bar/lounge, nor do they have sufficient square footage to create a separate smoking section. Like restaurants in recent times, the non-smoking section would have existed in tables a matter of feet from the smoking, not a solution either.

Originally Posted by davyboy

.....Ban the ban i say and if you dont like smoke dont go to the ****in pub....

The pub is for drinking, not smoking.
If you do like smoke why don't YOU stay home

(or more reasonably) go to a pub which has heated smoking sections or a beer garden.

**davyboy** · 27/04/2004, 3:30 PM

Im a non smoker i just feel sorry for the old man in the corner who looks like he is about to cry has had one of his last compforts takin away from him. Men and women who have worked all their lives having some little hitler telling them they cant enjoy their smoke in their local. And as for the workers. get a new job. I dont like heat so i dont work in a kitchen

**�anna** · 27/04/2004, 4:01 PM

By the same token I don't like violence so should I not walk down the street in case somebody who does like violence feels like hitting me? The smoking ban is brilliant. I've been known to enjoy the odd cigar or two on a night out, but I think its the one of the best laws this country has passed in the last decade. If people want to kill themselves fine, but I don't appreciate them taking me along for the ride.

FF OUT, but give Miche�l Martin a round of applause for this

**brendy_�ire** · 27/04/2004, 4:05 PM

Originally Posted by davyboy

Im a non smoker i just feel sorry for the old man in the corner who looks like he is about to cry has had one of his last compforts takin away from him. Men and women who have worked all their lives having some little hitler telling them they cant enjoy their smoke in their local. And as for the workers. get a new job. I dont like heat so i dont work in a kitchen

WTF?!?

Christ, strong words there mucker.
Every worker deserves not to be subjected to carcinogens. Doesn't matter who the customers are. No-one should be allowed to pollute a workplace.

**Peadar** · 27/04/2004, 4:52 PM

Originally Posted by davyboy

Micheal martin(*****). Ban the ban i say and if you dont like smoke dont go to the ****in pub.

It's a ban on smoke in the work place, not specifically the pub.
Get your facts right before you make a greater fool of yourself!

It's an absolute breath of fresh air, excuse the pun, to have a drink in public now.
Only real draw back it that the ignorant smokers have now taken to clogging up our streets with their disgusting cigarette butts. It is estimated that several trillion cigarette butts are littered worldwide every year. In fact, cigarettes are the most littered item in Ireland and presumably the world. Cigarette filters are made of cellulose acetate tow and they can take decades to degrade. Not only does cigarette litter deface our streets but the toxic residue in cigarette filters is damaging to the environment.

There are twenty full-time Litter Wardens patrolling the streets of Dublin City and suburbs. They can issue an On-the-spot-fine of �125 I hope they clamp down in the ignorant smokers. Smokers have been let away with murder for decades. Your days are numbered selfish killers!

**Gary** · 27/04/2004, 5:51 PM

Spot on Peadar.

Davyboy, if your mates are so rude as to interupt a conversation in order to go outside for a smoke then God help ya.

Perosnally, the door opening and closing would bother me, and it could do so for the entire night if i was able to enjoy non smoke filled mank air.

Im actually surprised by how well the whole thing is working. I only saw a guy break it for the first time sunday, and even then he was only running in to say goodbye to someone, and went straight back out. Having said that, the smell from that one fag for 30 seconds lingered for a while. Ignorant d�ckhead.

**dahamsta** · 27/04/2004, 6:27 PM

Originally Posted by Gary

the smell from that one fag for 30 seconds lingered for a while.

Poor baby.

I was in the Franciscan Well the other night. Beer garden packed, inside decimated!

adam

**Gary** · 27/04/2004, 7:23 PM

Maybe becasue the weather was nice for the last few days Hamsta?

Or the fact that they have those nice heaters in the Well???

Or that alot of people prefer to have a drink outside if there is a beer garden available, so long as its not freezing cold and /or lashing rain.

**liam88** · 27/04/2004, 7:31 PM

SMoking ban=Great for contact lens wearers

Only those who have worn/wear contact lenses will know how badly the smoke messes with 'em making your eyes really uncomfertable so it ruins a good night out and you keep missing bits of the match

**Macy** · 28/04/2004, 8:27 AM

I think it's great too, Cans round at friend�s houses at at least half the price of the pubs, guaranteed quality of drinks and company, no dictators telling me what to do.... Saved half the money I would've spent (negates the price of smokes actually), yet still got more beer... You can keep your fart, sweat and stale beer smells, give me the lovely aroma of tobacco any day...

**�anna** · 28/04/2004, 6:02 PM

I like your thinking Macy. If smokers want to poison each other, who's stopping them. Leave us nice healthy folk enjoy the pubs

**Footie_Fan** · 28/04/2004, 6:26 PM

Originally Posted by �anna

Leave us nice healthy folk enjoy the pubs

While I do enjoy it, drinking is hardly the healthiest activity one could engage in.

**�anna** · 28/04/2004, 6:32 PM

Who said anything about drinking? A few cokes and some msuic is a lovely way to spend an evening

*

*= if you're feckin driving

**sadloserkid** · 30/04/2004, 1:29 PM

Just broke up with a smoker (well technically she broke up with me

) so I'm smugly content about the whole thing at the minute.

**Plastic Paddy** · 30/04/2004, 1:32 PM

Originally Posted by sadloserkid

Just broke up with a smoker (well technically she broke up with me

) so I'm smugly content about the whole thing at the minute.

Just think. No more ashtray kisses. Good man.

PP

**Dodge** · 30/04/2004, 1:47 PM

Neither myself or the girlfriend smokes and have to be honest and say that we�ve been out a god bit more since the ban.

**Dricky** · 30/04/2004, 1:59 PM

Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy

Just think. No more ashtray kisses. Good man.

PP

Personally I think it's about time. On a different slant on it Nicotine has no beneficial benefit what so ever and it is a highly addictive substance. The part of the brain linked to this addiction is also the same part affected by Smack and H. If the government wishes to keep Cannabis as a band substance (which is a plant that can be used totally with no waste and has medical benefits) then they should also be pushing to ban Nicotine outright.

As per banning it in pubs, choice is there smoke or Drink now what Irish person will give up the booze for a fag???? (apart from Steven Gatley) We are all entitled to a smoke free work palce

What Irish bar owner would not flout the law if they thought
1)they would get away with it
2)If it suited them.

someone had to take control.

If a woman was to breast feed her baby in a pub you could be sure there would be outrage from certain people as is always the way, they would say to he do that in private. A natural thing and they are made feel bad because of someone elses problem.

Well now the smokers are being told to do similar, if you want to do it do it in your own home, Minorities just causing uproar.......
Nah M M has seen that this is his ticket out of Health Min clever man will survive the poison chalice that is the Health Dep.
Smokers Move to Lux cigs are 3€ advertising of tabacco is not banned even though it is everywhere else in EU they hand them out like candy here.

Just my little rant....