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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks View Post
    We are talking about a country thats biggest tourist landmark is a sellotaped pole.
    Correction!!! That sellotape has been ripped off and/or perished in the elements
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks View Post
    We are talking about a country thats biggest tourist landmark is a sellotaped pole.
    not even in the top ten: http://www.independent.ie/life/trave...-34719406.html
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    But it is now, not 4 years ago. You could say the same about Vardy. How could
    anyone be so pessimistic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricky_colour View Post
    But it is now, not 4 years ago. You could say the same about Vardy. How could
    anyone be so pessimistic?
    because in four years, Amond will be 33. It's unlikely that a premier league club will sign a 33 year old striker with no experience at that level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    because in four years, Amond will be 33. It's unlikely that a premier league club will sign a 33 year old striker with no experience at that level.
    So is that the kernel of your argument?
    Last edited by OwlsFan; 17/05/2016 at 3:21 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsFan View Post
    So it that the kernel of your argument?
    I'm not saying it's impossible, it's just very unlikely. Vardy started on his journey from non league at 25, and as a striker facing into his prime years. Amond is 29 now, very much in his prime as a striker, and out of contract. He's had a fantastic season at Grimsby, so presumably can hope for a contract in League Two, or one of the promoted sides/lower ranked sides in League One. It's unlikely that a Championship or Premier League side is going to take him straight to that level.
    His best season in League Two yielded 11 goals (2013/14 with Morecambe) so he'll have to improve on that to get another move to a higher club, or get promoted. That's at least one season, if not two, when he'll be 31. Again with an excellent season behind him, he could get promoted at least once. That puts him at Championship level in three years, and he's 32. Very few 32 year old Championship (again assuming he's playing at that level) strikers, with no experience at a higher level, get transfers to the Premier League, so with a promotion, he could be playing Premier League football in four years.
    That's a lot of coulds and assumptions. Has any striker, at that age, gone from non league to Premier League in a short space of time?
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    Vardy is a very rare exception.

    Amond - unlike Vardy - has, relatively speaking, failed to deliver at the fourth tier in England, in addition to the top flight in Portugal, over a spell of five seasons. Lots of forwards can drop down a level and then start banging goals in. Doesn't mean they're going to be able to jump four levels overnight.

    Look at the previous top scorers in the Conference -
    2014/15 - Akinade (31 for Barnet). Scored 23 for Barnet this year in the fourth tier.
    2013/14 - Grey (30 for Luton). Immediately moved to Brentford in the second tier, and scored 16. Moved to Burnley and notched 25 this year - but he was only 22 at Luton.
    2012/13 - Green (25 for Mansfield). Immediately moved to Birmingham - and after one goal in two seasons (much of which was injury-hit), he was released and is back at Mansfield again
    2011/12 - Vardy (31) - and as noted, he's had four years with Leicester at this stage to get to Premiership standard.
    2010/11 - Tubbs (37 for Crawley). Has scored 56 goals in 5 seasons since then and is back in the Conference with Eastleigh on loan.
    2009/10 - Brodie (26 for York). Has only played one season outside the Conference, scoring 5 for Morecambe.
    2008/09 - Mangan (26 for Forest Green). Has played Conference more often than not since, scoring 17 goals in three seasons in the League.

    Vardy is the only one of that who's even played in the Premiership. Grey is the only other one who's really made an impact outside the fourth division. No reason at all to consider Amond the next Vardy unfortunately, even ignoring the issue of age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    because in four years, Amond will be 33. It's unlikely that a premier league club will sign a 33 year old striker with no experience at that level.
    I am talking about now, he has an eye for goal, seriously someone would be mad to not snap him up and give him a chance.

    Lets face it you can splash out millions on a top striker and he can turn out to be useless.

    I can't believe nobody is apparently too interest, I have seen no clubs mentioned.

    You have to play him in a system that suits him though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsFan View Post
    So is that the kernel of your argument?
    Don't worry OwlsFan... I got it.
    Last edited by DeLorean; 17/05/2016 at 3:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricky_colour View Post
    I am talking about now
    Even Vardy did nothing when he was first signed.

    So you can't compare to Vardy and talk about immediate returns.

    The history of top scorers in the Conference shows that the vast majority can't make it at a level beyond the next one up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricky_colour View Post
    I can't believe nobody is apparently too interest, I have seen no clubs mentioned.
    I guess it's because if clubs were to take a punt on every player that scores loads of goals at a much, much lower level they'd be seriously overstocked.

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    A nicely succinct way of putting it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricky_colour View Post
    I am talking about now, he has an eye for goal, seriously someone would be mad to not snap him up and give him a chance.

    Lets face it you can splash out millions on a top striker and he can turn out to be useless.

    I can't believe nobody is apparently too interest, I have seen no clubs mentioned.

    You have to play him in a system that suits him though.
    are you really asking why a Premier League club is not linked with a non-league striker?
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    As for his age Colonel Sanders was 66 when he started Kentucky Fried Chicken.

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    Eh, ok.

    Not entirely relevant, but there you go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    are you really asking why a Premier League club is not linked with a non-league striker?
    A goal is a goal an accurate header or shot works just as well in the pub car park and it does in the Bernabéu

    Why didn't Villa sign him? He got more goal than the shower of expensive sh*te currently at the club.

    Were they better buys? I don't think so.

    Where the players they signed from Premiership clubs a better option?

    Including Barcelona Man City and Liverpool.

    Anyhow someone will come in for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricky_colour View Post
    A goal is a goal an accurate header or shot works just as well in the pub car park and it does in the Bernabéu
    Hm. Not entirely sure you understand how football works, tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Hm. Not entirely sure you understand how football works, tbh.
    Oh I am, it is basically bag of wind which gets kicked around a park, nothing more.

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    "Bag of wind" - excellent.

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