Quoteit seems a car crash of early VU and 'exile'-era stones. unfortunately ends up sounding something like a sub-par black rebel motorcycle club who were a sort've spiritualized/oasis tribute act themselves.Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
yeah, it's woeful
the last 90 seconds is "baby c'mon, c'mon baby c'mon" on repeat for over a minute
sounds like Liam's stopped thinking he's John Lennon, and started thinking he's Jim Morrison
it seems a car crash of early VU and 'exile'-era stones. unfortunately ends up sounding something like a sub-par black rebel motorcycle club who were a sort've spiritualized/oasis tribute act themselves.
zombie/thread killer..
It sounds exactly as I expected them to sound - bog standard, uninspired 70's rock by numbers that has nothing to say.
Still hoping that Noel can produce something meaningful. I'd love to see him work with Dave Sardy again - he did a great job on the 6 Noel tunes that featured on last Oasis album.
Oasis becoming a democracy destroyed the band. Once Noel stopped doing everything, they were doomed.
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Anyone catch "The Promise" over the Christmas. A documentary about the recording of Springsteens "Darkness on the Edge of Town"????
You've got to admire the work ethic and attention to detail but it must have driven the band demented. Days spent checking out drum sounds!!!!!
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Didnt see it all but what I saw was very good filmaking. Fascinating insight to his writing process.
When Phil Spector produced the Ramones he made Johnny do the first chord to rock n roll high school over and over and over and ..........You've got to admire the work ethic and attention to detail but it must have driven the band demented. Days spent checking out drum sounds!!!!!
and to be honest I'm sure he nailed it first time
Not to mention pulling a gun on them to keep them at it!
An extract offering an insight into the recording of "Loveless" by My Bloody Valentine.
"The vocal tracks were taped in Britannia Row and Protocol studios between May and June 1991. This was the first time vocalist Bilinda Butcher was involved in the recording. Shields and Butcher hung curtains on the window between the studio control room and the vocal booth, and only communicated with the engineers when they would acknowledge a good take by opening the curtain and waving".
According to engineer Guy Fixsen, "We weren't allowed to listen while either of them were doing a vocal. You'd have to watch the meters on the tape machine to see if anyone was singing. If it stopped, you knew you had to stop the tape and take it back to the top."
On most days, the couple arrived without having written the lyrics for the song they were to record. Dutt recalled: "Kevin would sing a track, and then Bilinda would get the tape and write down words she thought he might have sung".
In July 1991, Creation agreed to relocate the production to Eastcoate studio, following unexplained complaints from Shields. However, the cash-poor Creation Records was unable to pay the bill for their time at Britannia Row, and the studio refused to return the band's equipment. Dutt recalled, "I don't know what excuse Kevin gave them for leaving. He had to raise the money himself to get the gear out."
Shields' unexpected and random behaviour, the constant delays, and studio changes were having a material effect both on Creation's finances and the health of their staff. Dutt later admitted being desperate to leave the project, while Creation's second-in-command Dick Green had a nervous breakdown around this time. Green later recalled, "It was two years into the album, and I phoned Shields up in tears. I was going 'You have to deliver me this record'.
During this time, both Shields and Butcher became affected with tinnitus, and had to delay recording for a further number of weeks while they recovered. Concerned friends and band members suggested this was a result of the unusually loud volumes the group played at their shows. Shields dismissed these concerns as "Ill-informed hysteria".
Although Alan McGee was still upbeat and positive about his investment, the 29-year-old Green, who by this time was opening the label's morning post "shaking with fear", became a concern to his co-workers. Publicist Laurence Verfaillie, aware of the label's inability to cover further studio bills, recalled Green's hair turning grey overnight. "He would have not gone grey if it was not for that album", Verfaillie said.
With the vocal tracks completed, a final mix of the album was undertaken with engineer Dick Meany at the Church in Crouch End during the autumn of 1991; it was the nineteenth studio in which Loveless had been worked on. The album was edited on an aged machine that had previously been used to cut together dialog for movies in the 1970s. Its computer threw the entire album out of phase. Shields was able to put it back together from memory, yet when it came to mastering the album, to Creation's dismay, he needed 13 days, rather than the usual one day.
As the previously prolific band were unusually quiet, the UK music press began to speculate. Melody Maker calculated that the total recording cost had come close to £250,000; however, McGee, Green, and Shields dispute this. Shields argued that that estimated cost (and Creation's near-bankruptcy) was a myth exaggerated by McGee because the Creation owner "thought it would be cool."
According to Shields, "The amount we spent nobody knows because we never counted. But we worked it out ourselves just by working out how much the studios cost and how much all the engineers cost. 160 thousand pounds was the most we could come to as the actual money that was spent."
In Green's opinion, the Melody Maker's estimate erred on the low side, by £20,000. He said, "Once you'd even got it recorded and mixed, the very act of compiling, EQ-ing, etcetera took weeks on its own."[15] In a December 1991 interview, Shields said that most of the money claimed to have been spent on the album was simply "money to live on" over three years, with the album itself only costing "a few thousand". He also claimed that the album represented only four months work over two years.
Shields later said that most of the money spent was the band's own money, and that "Creation probably spent fifteen to twenty thousand pounds of their own money on it, and that's it. They never showed us any accounts, and then they got bought out by Sony." "
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I've read that so many times over the years and it still brings a smile to me when I read this line: "On most days, the couple arrived without having written the lyrics for the song they were to record. Dutt recalled: "Kevin would sing a track, and then Bilinda would get the tape and write down words she thought he might have sung"."
And to think that that process created one of the greatest if not the greatest album ever committed to record.
My musical highlight of my life (that doesn't involve Daft Punk or The Prayer Boat) was being on a security stand at Primavera 2009 at MBV and singing Soon at the top of my lungs and swaying with tears in my eyes. I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it.
I'd say mixing Loveless was hell.
DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
Q Magazine readers vote "OK Computer" the best album of Q's lifetime (established 1986).
More breaking news............World continues to spin on its Axis................
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Would you believe "Beady Eye" debut album is commanding some great reviews - best thing to feature Liam since the mid 90's apparently!! (many would argue that would not be too difficult).
Anyhoo, might be worth checking out afterall.
Where did I leave that humble pie?????
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I tell you what I'm loving Bring the light now. Hated it at first..........got tickets for Troxy and Rock City now.
"If God had meant football to be played in the air, he'd have put grass in the sky." Brian Clough.
You'll NEVER beat the Irish.......you'll just draw with us instead!!!
Hold the line fellas! It'll only end in disappointment.
Ou-est le Centre George Pompidou?
I've an irrational and deep rooted dislike of Snow Patrol.
I think its the blandness.
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Wouldnt call it irrational myself.
Meanwhile, a new opera opens on the 17th in London. Called Anna Nicole, and based on the life of everyone's favourite bubbly billionaire's widow. 'Twill be interesting to see how it plays out.
That question was less stupid, though you asked it in a profoundly stupid way.
Help me, Arthur Murphy, you're my only hope!
The White Stripes call it a day.
http://www.whitestripes.com/
Bound to to be a "Best of" in the offing so............................
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..followed by the inevitable lucrative reunion tour sponsored by coke. i think it was thurston moore from sonic youth saying they lost a ton of money because they stayed together while many of their peers broke up and reformed!
zombie/thread killer..
Radiohead announce new album - "King of Limbs".
http://http://indielibertines.net/radiohead-announce-new-album-the-king-of-limbs/
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