Moving or not?

**Bonovox** · 28/08/2010, 11:27 AM

The only reason Limerick should be signing a player under 18 is if he is good enough to go straight into the senior squad. Then yes a case could be made for compensating the foster club. Other than that why do Limerick need a minor team?

**Bonovox** · 28/08/2010, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Xile

Bono, you honestly have no clue as to why Limerick aree entering into the League by the looks of things.

Not to mention, Consider this:

Most of the Limerick FC U20's Team is 17/18 and some 16, this group will pose a large ammount of the 17/18 Team, as to stop 'taking' players from other clubs.

Is it not within the complete right of the player to sign with whoever the **** he wants? If he wants to sign for Limerick and try to get to LOI Level through it, leave him off. If he wants to sign for Fairview, Pike, or Summerville - Leave him off.

Xile - it is exactly this sort of attitude that pi$$es people off. Firstly just because they are signed with the 20's doesn't mean they will sign a minor form. One of the attractions of the 20's league is that it allows players to sign a 20's form and then return to his club in December. I can guarantee you most of the current 20's squad have this in mind. Just because they play 20's doesn't mean Limerick own the players!
I thought my post was fair and balanced but as usual along comes a Limerick head and lets down the side again. BTW your grammar is sh!te as well.

**Jofspring** · 28/08/2010, 1:49 PM

I agree with most of your original reply bonovox but I wasn't implying Limerick had brought through any players but that they want to get them in younger. From u7 right up to u18. With Limerick being a loi club they don't have the time to wait for current u7's and 8's etc.... To get to an age where they can go through to the first team so not only do Limerick need the underage teams but they need 17's and 18's also. If Limerick don't start setting up these teams at all age levels then they will forever rely on Junior clubs for players which I don't think would be a good thing either. Most junior clubs have no problem with Limerick but I can guarantee you it's the one or two big clubs around town that are pulling all the strings around this issue. The big clubs are just looking after number one and protecting their own interests, which I'm sure is what Limerick are doing too. The only difference is Limerick can offer the best players that come through Loi football and the junior teams can't to a cartain extent, and I think this frightens them for the future of their Junior teams not the best interests of any of the young players.

**Bonovox** · 28/08/2010, 2:05 PM

Originally Posted by Jofspring

I agree with most of your original reply bonovox but I wasn't implying Limerick had brought through any players but that they want to get them in younger. From u7 right up to u18. With Limerick being a loi club they don't have the time to wait for current u7's and 8's etc.... To get to an age where they can go through to the first team so not only do Limerick need the underage teams but they need 17's and 18's also. If Limerick don't start setting up these teams at all age levels then they will forever rely on Junior clubs for players which I don't think would be a good thing either. Most junior clubs have no problem with Limerick but I can guarantee you it's the one or two big clubs around town that are pulling all the strings around this issue. The big clubs are just looking after number one and protecting their own interests, which I'm sure is what Limerick are doing too. The only difference is Limerick can offer the best players that come through Loi football and the junior teams can't to a cartain extent, and I think this frightens them for the future of their Junior teams not the best interests of any of the young players.

jofspring - I agree with your sentiment but will always argue that Limerick don't need a minor team. You come across as a very rational and grounded individual. Maybe you could suggest to the powers that be in Limerick to organise a meeting between Limerick and the clubs. Get all the issues out in the open and provide some middle ground where all soccer loving people in Limerick can exist in harmony for the common good.

**Treaty Gooner** · 28/08/2010, 4:33 PM

Do you really think that all the local soccer ruling bodies will sit down to talk about this? Never gona happen, especially with the current committees and their members in place. Everyone knows who exactly is the biggest obstacle to Limerick's inclusion and that shows no sign of changing any time soon.

**bluewhitearmy** · 29/08/2010, 2:50 PM

If it was anyone other then Limerick lets say Weston Villa wanted to set up 17s 18s and 19s there would be no complaints at all.

And the reasons you give for Limerick wanting to put in a team are a joke by the way.

Clubs losing teams because Limerick took players were the squads really that small that losing 2 or 3 players meant they had to pull out of the league?

You also say there will only be 4 or 5 teams in the league surely there is room for Limerick so with such low numbers?

Oh and as for your reply to Xile what attitude does he have that "pi$$es people off."?
And having a player signed to the 20s means that we own the player in the same way any junior team or schoolboy team owns a player on a form.

**Jofspring** · 29/08/2010, 5:00 PM

Originally Posted by Bonovox

jofspring - I agree with your sentiment but will always argue that Limerick don't need a minor team. You come across as a very rational and grounded individual. Maybe you could suggest to the powers that be in Limerick to organise a meeting between Limerick and the clubs. Get all the issues out in the open and provide some middle ground where all soccer loving people in Limerick can exist in harmony for the common good.

Problem is this would never happen. The clubs would look at it that they have no reason to sit down with Limerick as they've prevented them putting in teams already.

**ped_ped** · 30/08/2010, 3:27 PM

Originally Posted by redcardrory

plus limerick are starting to thickoff junior clubs cos of them trying to get minor & schoolboy teams in to the local league

Okay very little of this thread since this post has actually been about whether Limerick are moving or not . . . I'm surprised there isn't a thread about Limerick entering minor teams, but for the moment can anybody give me an update on the situation with the Market's Field?

**osarusan** · 30/08/2010, 3:33 PM

Here's a thread from the Limerick section of boards.ie on the issue.

**Johnnie C** · 31/08/2010, 12:52 PM

Is Hogan Park not an option for Limerick anymore ? There is ample room out there to develop a proper stadium compared to the space restraints around Jackman.

**Jofspring** · 31/08/2010, 1:14 PM

Originally Posted by Johnnie C

Is Hogan Park not an option for Limerick anymore ? There is ample room out there to develop a proper stadium compared to the space restraints around Jackman.

If not the Markets field then i'd love to see Limerick buy Hogan Park if it was available. New roads all around that area and plenty of space for development.

**LK37oldskool** · 01/09/2010, 12:49 PM

POS has made another formal bid according to the Leader. Also one of the councillers has come out and said that no-one will get permission to re-zone the site which seriously reduces many(if any) other bidders interest in buying the property.

**Jofspring** · 01/09/2010, 4:02 PM

With the public tender is there only a certain time frame that people have to make a bid for the Markets Field or is it open until Bord na gCon devide they are happy with an offer?

**Monkfish** · 01/09/2010, 5:04 PM

Save your money Pat, Markets Field means very little to most of the fans going these days. Always be associated with the glory holes who clinged to the club during the good days.

No changing rooms

No floodlights

No crash barriers

No seats

Not even goal posts in the place.

**Lim till i die** · 01/09/2010, 5:06 PM

Erm, we have to move ground at some stage.

What's your alternative?

**Monkfish** · 01/09/2010, 5:14 PM

Originally Posted by Lim till i die

Erm, we have to move ground at some stage.

Nonsence, but if we do id rather do up Rathbane.

**Lim till i die** · 01/09/2010, 5:21 PM

Originally Posted by Monkfish

Nonsence

No it's not.

but if we do id rather do up Rathbane

Originally Posted by Monkfish

No changing rooms

No floodlights

No crash barriers

No seats

And it wouldn't be free either.

**Monkfish** · 01/09/2010, 5:32 PM

Barriers, lights and changing rooms in Rathbane.

**Lim till i die** · 01/09/2010, 5:37 PM

Originally Posted by Monkfish

Barriers, lights and changing rooms in Rathbane.

Where are the crash barriers?? The steel fences at the bottom of the gravel/grass banks don't count btw.

The lights would have to be replaced.

The changing rooms are in bits, dunno whether would be cheaper to completely revamp them or build new ones but whatever