Shamrock Rovers fans held after rampage in rivals' pub

**Bohs11** · 16/08/2010, 2:26 PM

Jennifer Bray
Eight Shamrock Rovers fans were arrested last Sunday after causing extensive damage to a Dublin pub following a fixture against rival club Bohemians.

After the match, which took place in Tallaght Stadium, Rovers' home ground, about 20 fans travelled by bus from Tallaght to the Phibsborough House pub on the northside of the city, which is close to Bohemians' home at Dalymount Park.

It is understood the Rovers fans began causing trouble in the quiet pub, smashing windows and throwing glasses.

Gardaí arrested three men at the scene and questioned a further five men at Bridewell station.

The three who were arrested were all in their late teens and were released last week. Files will be sent to the Director of Public Prosecutions.

It is understood the troublemakers have been caught on CCTV. The pub is said to have been badly damaged and is now in the process of analysing the costs and beginning repairs.

A spokesman for the Phibsborough House confirmed the incident but declined to comment any further.

A garda spokesman said: "Gardaí at Mountjoy were called to an incident in a public house in Phibsborough at 7.45pm where three men were arrested.

"Five juveniles were taken to Bridewell Garda Station and were dealt with accordingly. A large amount of damage was done to the public house.

"All three were released and a file has been sent to the DPP."

http://www.tribune.ie/news/home-news...ge-in-rivals-/

I wonder will the model club ban their supporters for this. Or "ban" them like they did with the scumbags who taunted Webb over his dead wife a few years ago.

**Saint_Charlie** · 16/08/2010, 2:31 PM

It would be very hard to ban individuals who were involved in a public order offence nowhere near the game / ground.

**Buller** · 16/08/2010, 2:41 PM

I would have thought that most supporters of Rovers would have been at the actual game...

**pineapple stu** · 16/08/2010, 2:42 PM

It does say the incident was after the match...

**WoodquayBoy** · 16/08/2010, 2:54 PM

Has Bohs moved to ban the people who threw bottles at Twigg? They were at the game, as opposed to people who went to a pub hours after the game, miles away from the match venue, as Saint Charlie points out

**marinobohs** · 16/08/2010, 2:59 PM

Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy

Has Bohs moved to ban the people who threw bottles at Twigg? They were at the game, as opposed to people who went to a pub hours after the game, miles away from the match venue, as Saint Charlie points out

bohs have banned any individuals that have been convicted of any football incident(s) over the years and to be fair do enforce it (including providing stewards for away matches). it is fair to say that some clubs do not enforce bans imposed on ruly elements.
RE the Twigg incident I am not aware of anyone arrested /charged/ banned in connection with it so it would be difficult for the club to act.
Similarly in the incident here it is well nigh impossible for clubs to control public order outside grounds.

**Réiteoir** · 16/08/2010, 3:01 PM

I seem to remember there being a similar debate on here (15 page threads and the like) when the same type of thing happened with the incident in Derry a couple of years back.

Unfortunately - looks like not much has changed with this type of thing going on - here's hoping the Law is as robust as that handed down by Mr McElholm

It also saw the use of the word "Sligwegians" - which I quite like

**paul_oshea** · 16/08/2010, 3:02 PM

Why can no one ever accept responsibilty? other than say what others have done. the old phrase get your own house in order etc springs to mind.

There has to be less blame culture and more responsibility and acceptance. One family, which is what I often hear on these threads about the LOI community.

**osarusan** · 16/08/2010, 3:04 PM

Originally Posted by Réiteoir

I seem to remember there being a similar debate on here (15 page threads and the like) when the same type of thing happened with the incident in Derry a couple of years back.

Do you expect 15 pages of outrage in the 35 minutes the thread has been open?

As has been pointed out, there's not much a club can do with incidents outside the ground.

What they can do is ensure that people involved in these incidents are not allowed inside the ground again (or other punishment, depending on the incident).

**marinobohs** · 16/08/2010, 3:05 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Why can no one ever accept responsibilty? other than say what others have done. the old phrase get your own house in order etc springs to mind.

There has to be less blame culture and more responsibility and acceptance. One family, which is what I often hear on these threads about the LOI community.

this incident has nothing to do with football/LOI fans here or anywhere else. I would expect shams will ban anyone convicted but what the hell else can any club do about a few scumbags acting the ******** miles from the club and hours after the match ?

**Quadruple1928** · 16/08/2010, 3:06 PM

It is understood the troublemakers have been caught on CCTV.

Judge "have you anything to say for yourself"

scum fan" Well yes i do, it is my belief that Sheridan doctored that clip"

**PartySaint** · 16/08/2010, 3:07 PM

How do they know they are Rovers fans, Were they wearing jersyes or singing Rovers songs or did the Guards just ask them who they support when they arrested them??

**Réiteoir** · 16/08/2010, 3:09 PM

Originally Posted by osarusan

Do you expect 15 pages of outrage in the 35 minutes the thread has been open?

No - what I meant was that's what we ended up with - looking back through it now - it was actually quite a decent debate in places, on exactly the same lines as being put down here

**Lim till i die** · 16/08/2010, 3:10 PM

Surely as a club, a club can refuse right of admission??

I'd doubt that there's a Rovers* regular who doesn't know who these easily led children are.

*I'd say the same about any LoI club that had this element before the we're being picked on brigade rush on.

**Sean South** · 16/08/2010, 3:12 PM

Originally Posted by PartySaint

How do they know they are Rovers fans, Were they wearing jersyes or singing Rovers songs or did the Guards just ask them who they support when they arrested them??

Last I herd casuals don't wear colours

**OneRedArmy** · 16/08/2010, 3:57 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Why can no one ever accept responsibilty? other than say what others have done. the old phrase get your own house in order etc springs to mind.

Who specifically would you like to take responsibility for this? Bohs members who post on foot.ie, Bohs board, the fans of other clubs, the people who did it.......?

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

There has to be less blame culture and more responsibility and acceptance. One family, which is what I often hear on these threads about the LOI community.

What does that even mean?

**peadar1987** · 16/08/2010, 4:12 PM

Unless the violence can be proven to be football-related, Shams have no reason to ban them. Should I be banned from Bray games if I got into a scuffle in town of a weekend? Should anyone with a criminal record be banned from attending LOI matches?

**Rasputin** · 16/08/2010, 4:56 PM

Yup not much Shams can do in this instance in fairness.

**Ciaran W** · 16/08/2010, 5:16 PM

Hate seeing these type of lads at the games. .There was two of them at the drogheda game at the weekend and after Dennehy scored, scumbag 1 turns to scumbag 2 and asks who scored, your man says ''i dont know who he is'' and i watched them for the rest of the game and neither of them looked at the game once they just stood there stoned out of their faces.

**SkStu** · 16/08/2010, 5:17 PM

absolutely nothing they can do about it to prevent it but they can take action against the group to prevent them from attending games, if they are convicted.

Having said that, even though these guys were obviously morons, i dont know why it was necessary to identify that these were "Shamrock Rovers fans". Its just another public order offence that probably wouldnt have been put in the papers if there wasnt a LOI twist to it. Its pretty disappointing but to be expected at this stage.