Bohs in financial trouble

**White Horse** · 13/01/2011, 7:11 PM

Shelley and Gray named on Newstalk.

**pineapple stu** · 13/01/2011, 7:13 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

you need to put "to me" at the end of each of those sentences.

Sorry; I should have said it doesn't concern you. It's a matter purely between the players and the club. That you personally - or the fans as a group - weren't informed who was behind the action doesn't mean the players weren't open about things.

**Dodge** · 13/01/2011, 7:50 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

when you figure it out, get back to me.

Fine then, UI''ll be clearer. i see nothing suspicious in it at all. If you can't point out where you can see it, then thats fine too

**placid casual** · 13/01/2011, 8:21 PM

havent read the full thread but kinda have the gist of it anyways..
If the courts case goes ahead , are we looking at 3/4 weeks before a decision is made , or does anyone know if it'll be resolved sooner ?

Question for bohs fans - i had a quick peek on your messageboard there and I'm a tiny bit surprised at the naivety of a good few of the posters there. You cant honestly blame all your current woes on the greedyness of players and the ar$e fallin outta the property market can you . can you?

Can only hope the members section has the clued up individuals.

**SkStu** · 13/01/2011, 8:41 PM

Originally Posted by placid casual

havent read the full thread but kinda have the gist of it anyways..
If the courts case goes ahead , are we looking at 3/4 weeks before a decision is made , or does anyone know if it'll be resolved sooner ?

it could very well be resolved sooner, if a settlement with the players is reached. At most it will be 3ish weeks.

Originally Posted by placid casual

Question for bohs fans - i had a quick peek on your messageboard there and I'm a tiny bit surprised at the naivety of a good few of the posters there. You cant honestly blame all your current woes on the greedyness of players and the ar$e fallin outta the property market can you . can you?

There are a fraction of posters, PC, that blame property market/players. The rest of us blame Rovers.

But seriously, the vast majority blame the previous (mostly) and current board for letting the club get to this stage and lying to the members. In fairness, there are very few who blame the property market and fewer again that blame the players.

**Spudulika** · 13/01/2011, 9:23 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

but if more players did it, Spud, there wouldnt be many clubs left. And really it should only be done as a very last resort in my opinion. And these players werent open about it. How and ever, i dont want to keep repeating myself and i get that there is another argument on the side of the players.

However, as soon as this mess sorts itself out, and i believe it will, and if we survive the rest of the messes ahead i am really hopeful that we will become the standard bearers you talk about. There is no other viable option for any club.

I am sure the players and club knew, but for sake of professionalism it was kept private, for both sides sakes. The club and players were both proper and correct in that. However it again boils down to clubs not overstretching. I don't believe that if every club went under this year, that the renovated forms won't do the same next year.

I do believe Bohs can take a stride forward, they have the facilities and support, they have good young players (I'd seen their 20's play this year a couple of times) so there is hope. Though if the media make a circus out of it the whole situation is a loss.

**sundance kid** · 13/01/2011, 9:35 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

There are a fraction of posters, PC, that blame property market/players. The rest of us blame Rovers.

But seriously, the vast majority blame the previous (mostly) and current board for letting the club get to this stage and lying to the members. In fairness, there are very few who blame the property market and fewer again that blame the players.

Don't forget the oracle of everything, mr2IC, who was 100% sure that shelley had a rovers contract in his hands, and that the rvers chairman was secretly pulling all the strings in his attempts to kill Bohs. Next time you're over there is there any chance you could find out what his next crackpot theory is and post it here.

**legendz** · 13/01/2011, 9:43 PM

From the small pieces of news I've read, I can't see how Boh's or Drog's fans can give any money in full confidence to their respective clubs.
On Boh's, it's a terrible position for any club to be in but seems to be all of their own doing. No players given a contract should be put in a position where they are not being paid. The FAI should be tougher on clubs like this. Derry and Cork got off lightly last season being facilitated in Division One. I'm tempted to say clubs should be demoted, or in Cork's situation installed, in the A Championship but then the furture of that league is not even secure.

**SkStu** · 13/01/2011, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by sundance kid

Don't forget the oracle of everything, mr2IC, who was 100% sure that shelley had a rovers contract in his hands, and that the rvers chairman was secretly pulling all the strings in his attempts to kill Bohs. Next time you're over there is there any chance you could find out what his next crackpot theory is and post it here.

2IC will be chuffed!

He does love a good conspiracy theory - and not just Bohs ones!

**Hairy Bowsie** · 14/01/2011, 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by SkStu

Ill leave my contributions to this thread at that.

Probably best, because it's hard to put into words how ridiculous you are coming across.

I can't remember a time before in which i've agreed with Pinapple Stu but he's been fairly spot on in everything he's said so far.

**SkStu** · 14/01/2011, 12:24 AM

good man. The Hairy Bowsie seal of disapproval. It guarantees im right.

**Hairy Bowsie** · 14/01/2011, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by SkStu

good man. The Hairy Bowsie seal of disapproval. It guarantees im right.

Well you know what? Time will tell. Won't be long before i'm ****ing on what remains of your club

**SkStu** · 14/01/2011, 12:36 AM

Alright. Fair enough. Whatever floats your boat.

If it was two players doing the same to your own club over a few grand (that they will get anyway) just so they can speed up their move to Oz i think you and most would have a different opinion on how much sympathy these guys deserve.

**Hairy Bowsie** · 14/01/2011, 12:42 AM

The way i look at it is, i put myself in their position. If i done a months work for my current employers and they told me, i could only have a weeks pay, i'd be pretty ****ed off. You saying you'd be any different?

**blue til i die** · 14/01/2011, 12:51 AM

Red Devils confirm Shelley talks

"Extratime can confirm that the signing has not yet been completed, but that Shelley is in advanced talks with the Australians, and has been for about a month now."

http://www.extratime.ie/newsdesk/articles/4758/

**Dodge** · 14/01/2011, 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by SkStu

If it was two players doing the same to your own club over a few grand (that they will get anyway) just so they can speed up their move to Oz i think you and most would have a different opinion on how much sympathy these guys deserve.

At least you admit you're being irrational.

Bohs fans are now complaining about a fellah they want off the payroll looking for a job?

**SkStu** · 14/01/2011, 1:00 AM

Well thats not really the way it is. They were paid in full for the work they did. They are owed wages for the off season. And i think as part of the bigger picture they are looking for a settlement for the portion of their contract they havent yet fulfilled. We cant honour the contract for next season so are trying to buy them out. They have been assured they will receive their money when the club has it and has it for all.

Putting myself in their position - i 'd want my wages for work that i had done and if my employer told me that he couldnt fulfil the rest of my contract but could pay me some compensation, id focus on getting the maximum compensation i could. But yes, id definitely feel aggrieved.

Lookit, Shelley has said he wants to see out his contract with Bohs. Yet he has accepted a position with a club in Australia. But he has lied to the public through his solicitor and said that he didnt accept that job. Why? To squeeze as much out of Bohs as he can as quicly as he can in spite of the assurances he was given. As a Bohs fan, tell me why i have to like that or be silent about it? Its fckin shady.

My other issue is with McGuinness - the players rep. Instead of encouraging these actions he should have done his job and obtained a settlement for the group. By doing this either Shelly/Grey stand to gain more than the group or the group stands to gain more than the two. I dont think he encouraged any Cork or Drogheda players to issue winding up orders. Why stick the knife into Bohs? Anyway, im getting off track.

**SkStu** · 14/01/2011, 1:03 AM

Originally Posted by Dodge

At least you admit you're being irrational.

Bohs fans are now complaining about a fellah they want off the payroll looking for a job?

Seriously Dodge. Start figuring this stuff out.

Complaining about him lying through his teeth so he can continue to fck over the club - not complaining about him looking for a job. FFS.

**SkStu** · 14/01/2011, 1:06 AM

Originally Posted by blue til i die

Red Devils confirm Shelley talks

"Extratime can confirm that the signing has not yet been completed, but that Shelley is in advanced talks with the Australians, and has been for about a month now."

http://www.extratime.ie/newsdesk/articles/4758/

LOL...

However the quotes used in the Australian media came from a press release issued from the Australian side, claiming that he had signed with the club.

The club has confirmed the quotes were correct, but that they should not have been released.

They have also told Extratime that the press release was issued prematurely and that it was a 'mistake' to say that Shelley had signed a two year deal.

yeah poor ol Brian.

**Dodge** · 14/01/2011, 1:11 AM

Originally Posted by SkStu

Seriously Dodge. Start figuring this stuff out.

Complaining about him lying through his teeth so he can continue to fck over the club - not complaining about him looking for a job. FFS.

His new job is completely irrelevant to the money he is owed. The high court deals with facts, not "ah sure he doesn't really need it" rubbish

As I said before all the waffling from the PFAI and Bohs is just that. The facs are clear, Bohs owe him money, and he's looking to get it.

Bohs pay him, this ends now.