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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    The club could possible justify it on grounds of increasing brand awareness and loyalty? That would really hold for a national team, I'd say.
    I'd say that's the only reason it exists. Wouldn't hold for the national team, but could for the league. Still pie in the sky (no pun intended) given the how much it would cost. However, given some of the crap that's FTA on satellite and manages to survive, and the fact the FAI effectively pay for coverage of the league as it is, it perhaps isn't that nuts (for the league not national team).
    If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desaintsno.12 View Post
    In other words "please hire me please hire me"
    Thought he was going to show his loyalty to Mons by sticking with them for next season

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    Nah, he's starting the mind games on Fenlon early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post
    Because there is no identifiable market for such a station in Ireland. The aforementioned LFC.TV is free on most Sports packages and number that pay for MUTV is tiny (not sure RE Chavski TV but doubt it bucks the trend).
    Given the weekly gripefest on here about MNS can you really see fans paying for a dedicated football station ? Not to mention the huge costs involved in setting up such an enterprise as the FAI probobly have zero experience in this area.

    Complete non runner even with the glory hunting OLe, Ole brigade back "supporting" the National side

    I wish there was an easy way to type sarcasm.....

    In all seriousness though, got to thinking...do RTÉ own the rights to the first division? Would love to scrape together some sort of online highlights package for the first divison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Nobody owns any exlusive rights to the League of Ireland. You can show what you like
    I do recall Harps trying to show a live online stream of games last year but were given a slap on the wrist by either FAI or RTÉ.

    At the same time though, I'd love to see a highlights package of First Division. Probably won't happen though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    I wish there was an easy way to type sarcasm.....

    In all seriousness though, got to thinking...do RTÉ own the rights to the first division? Would love to scrape together some sort of online highlights package for the first divison.
    Some clubs already do show highlights (with or without sarcasm ) on their own sites (Shels for example) so must be possible outside of RTE. If all first division clubs provided a package of their own home games to a central "host" it would just need an on line site to show them all. Should be "doable" and could be advertised within League, club websites etc.
    Would hardly generate much money initially but could potentially be quite popular

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    I do recall Harps trying to show a live online stream of games last year but were given a slap on the wrist by either FAI or RTÉ.

    At the same time though, I'd love to see a highlights package of First Division. Probably won't happen though.
    Shamrock Rovers stream games line, don't they?

    As for First Division highlights, on the basis that beggars can't be choosers, YouTube isn't too bad for that. Though I don't know how many First Division clubs do their own highlights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Shamrock Rovers stream games line, don't they?
    He asked, as if he didn't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Shamrock Rovers stream games line, don't they?
    Only home games I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    I wish there was an easy way to type sarcasm.....

    In all seriousness though, got to thinking...do RTÉ own the rights to the first division? Would love to scrape together some sort of online highlights package for the first divison.
    interesting question on reflection im sure they do, they would own everything except the debts
    I wish i did not know then what I dont know now

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    Well Harps were doing highlights on Youtube for a while, have done it on and off, but getting someone to actually do it is the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Nobody owns any exlusive rights to the League of Ireland. You can show what you like
    Shels TV is a prime example .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Nobody owns any exlusive rights to the League of Ireland. You can show what you like
    Technically, but RTE has been quick enough to pull rank in the past (eg on Radio Commentary).
    If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macy View Post
    Technically, but RTE has been quick enough to pull rank in the past (eg on Radio Commentary).
    I think they did have exclusive radio rights at the time. Now look where we are...

    There's no problem with RTE getting first choice, but they don't own the rights to League games (just their footage, obviously)
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    What good are LOI rights to us anyway, when the fcuking FAI arent paying out the Live game fees they get when RTE show a game.
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    Interesting take of dalyer situation from someone on rovers forum ...

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    I don't think it is that simple.
    Firstly the land - the site is 5.2 acres. Development land is off approx 90% from its peak. That would leave Dalymount on a valuation of €6.5mio (10% of €65mio, assuming Carroll offer was market peak). Albion have a valid claim to say an acre of that which leaves Bohs owning 4.2 acres at a valuation of €5.25mio (a generous valuation given planning likely to be difficult and the site has restricted access). All this assumes they can realise that value by sellling the site. Banks are no longer lending against development land and anyone with cash has their pick of sites from NAMA, etc. Phibsboro wouldn't be top of your list and the Mountjoy redevelopment is now unlikely to happen as the new prison development in Thornton Hall is now dead. It's hard to believe anyone would buy Dalymount today with a view to sitting on it until the property market rebounded.
    BUT - Zurich Bank Ireland pulled out of property lending in 2009 and have marked down the value of their book aggressively, including presumably the Bohs loan. It is possible that, if they feel there is no prospect of getting their money back, they simply write the loan down to zero (it may already be there) and hand back the security (the car park on the Connaught St side). That would be a serious result for Bohs, although they would still have little prospect of selling the site in the current market. If they could persuade Zurich that they are broke, would Zurich walk? Are Bohs that smart?

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    It would seem bizarre to hand back the security if no attempt is made to repay the loan!
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    Surely Zurich would be better buying the ground themselves for whatever the loan is and renting it back to Bohs? Would at least see them get something out of the deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Surely Zurich would be better buying the ground themselves for whatever the loan is and renting it back to Bohs? Would at least see them get something out of the deal.
    would seem the most sensible option as theres not a hope in hell that Bohs can afford any sort of repayment

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