Fenn Announces his Retirement

[Dodge]

Glass houses there marino, Nutsy is far from clean in this area as he's, eh, had a word, with plenty of players under contract, eh, encouraging them to seek moves.

[pineapple stu]

but they could "encourage" Fenn to seek to have his contract dissolved. They did get Chris Turner to renege on an agreement to rejoin Sligo so there is form for this type of behaviour.

Without the registration being released, it seems all that's irrelevant. So why go to the bother of encouraging a player to retire when it's the simplest thing for Dundalk to hold ono to his registration and stop him from signing for anyone else for the rest of the season?

And the Chris Turner thing wasn't as you put it either, as I understand; Sligo were the ones who reneged on the contract offer, and Rovers capitalised on that. It's not Rovers' fault if other clubs make mistakes.

[Guinney]

What Neale Fenn did is absolutely disgusting. He conned his way out of a contract. The PFAI have harped on about clubs honouring players contracts - maybe they should mention that players should honours theirs to. Issues like this really knock the credibility of the league. Neale Fenn ruined his reputation with this, he has only a short time left in his career and when he goes looking for a coaching job when he hangs his boots up, I hope this incident stands to him and that no one will hire someone with such low integrity. Also I firmly believe the transfer dealings of Michael O'Neill need to be looked at. First Chris Turner now Neale Fenn and I'm sure there is plenty of other players he 'tapped'. Contact PFAI at http://www.pfai.ie/contact and tell McGuinness to get off his backside and do something about this, because Neale Fenn and Shamrock Rovers should not get away with this.

[Macy]

The cynic in me would wonder whether it was in Dundalks interest to get him off the payroll, and now they have the perfect cover from their own fans... It certainly appears to suit them that people ignore the registration issue.

[Guinney]

The cynic in me would wonder whether it was in Dundalks interest to get him off the payroll, and now they have the perfect cover from their own fans... It certainly appears to suit them that people ignore the registration issue.

Not a chance of this, did you see the size of the Dundalk squad. We already off loaded a couple of players like Synnott and Gregg. Foster was actively trying to get more players in not get rid of them. Dundalk FC acted in good heart (maybe a little naive) and let Fenn go for ''Personal reasons''. It back fired and Fenn deceived the club.

[marinobohs]

Without the registration being released, it seems all that's irrelevant. So why go to the bother of encouraging a player to retire when it's the simplest thing for Dundalk to hold ono to his registration and stop him from signing for anyone else for the rest of the season?

And the Chris Turner thing wasn't as you put it either, as I understand; Sligo were the ones who reneged on the contract offer, and Rovers capitalised on that. It's not Rovers' fault if other clubs make mistakes.

Ah yes, Stu, I was forgetting its NEVER shams fault all everyone elses first love and all that.........

[marinobohs]

Glass houses there marino, Nutsy is far from clean in this area as he's, eh, had a word, with plenty of players under contract, eh, encouraging them to seek moves.

All managers "tap up" players Dodge always have, always will. Difference here is that player(s) may have been encouraged to escape his contract by a paticular club. I Think that is slightly different scenario.

[pineapple stu]

Seriously mb - how do Rovers encourage Dundalk to release his registration?

There's no point selectively considering the facts that lead to the conclusion you want (i.e. Rovers are nasty, horrible people).

[Dodge]

There's absolutely no difference at all between the case I'm talking about. Except the outcome. In the case I'm talking about the player couldn't get out of his contract, and he was transferred to another club. In this case Fenn got out of his contract.

[GGAJD]

Rovers were in talks with Karl Sheppard over the weekend, he was seen in the Maldron with two suits on Sunday, if a deal had have been reached, Fenn wouldn't have got a call from Rovers and he possibly would have gone to shligo, and would there have been a six page thread on it on here??? Would there balls.

[marinobohs]

Seriously mb - how do Rovers encourage Dundalk to release his registration?

There's no point selectively considering the facts that lead to the conclusion you want (i.e. Rovers are nasty, horrible people).

Come on Stu, I said they may have encouraged fenn to seek dissolution of his contract, obviously there was no contact between the clubs - therin lies the problem. Not sure how much clearer I can make it. (please notice the MAY part - unlike rubbish regularly spouted about Bohs "as fact" on here)

[redobit]

Rovers were in talks with Karl Sheppard over the weekend, he was seen in the Maldron with two suits on Sunday, if a deal had have been reached, Fenn wouldn't have got a call from Rovers and he possibly would have gone to shligo, and would there have been a six page thread on it on here??? Would there balls.

Why wouldnt there be, serious issues have been raised.

[total hoofball]

The cynic in me would wonder whether it was in Dundalks interest to get him off the payroll, and now they have the perfect cover from their own fans... It certainly appears to suit them that people ignore the registration issue.

No. Immediately after Fenn 'retired' Dundalk signed Welsh striker Matthew Tipton as a replacement.

Fenn's farewall interview states that he still planned to be ''playing a little bit of football'', reading between the lines thats Inter or Junior football (or if you're REALLY cynical, Shamrock Rovers), so its likely he requested them to release his registration for that reason.

[total hoofball]

I can't but help feel that the timing of Fenn's out of the blue retirement, a couple of days before the closing of the transfer window, stinks to high heaven.

[GGAJD]

Why wouldnt there be, serious issues have been raised.

OK maybe your right they are serious questions reguarding Fenn's departure, but would every second poster be stating that Cooke encouraged Fenn to quit in a big underhand move by your lot if he'd gone out west? I doubt it.

Rovers main target before the window closed was Sheppard, that fell through for whatever reason, so Rovers ask Fenn his situation, he states he's a free agent, Rovers have that (apparantly)confirmed by the pfai and sign him, I don't see what Rovers have done wrong in that respect. Whatever about how Fenn got his contract cancelled is another matter and needs clarifying, but the conspiracy theorists/anti MON heads on here make me laugh with their crackpot theories.

[total hoofball]

OK maybe your right they are serious questions reguarding Fenn's departure, but would every second poster be stating that Cooke encouraged Fenn to quit in a big underhand move by your lot if he'd gone out west? I doubt it.

Cut the victimisation ******** out, it's a dispicable act by Fenn and whatever club he joined would be under a cloud of suspicion especially since there is form here with Shamrock Rovers

[pineapple stu]

Immediately after Fenn 'retired' Dundalk signed Welsh striker Matthew Tipton as a replacement.

Dundalk were quick on the ball there; must have been tapping Tipton up.

Arse; he was a free transfer. Ruins that joke.

[marinobohs]

OK maybe your right they are serious questions reguarding Fenn's departure, but would every second poster be stating that Cooke encouraged Fenn to quit in a big underhand move by your lot if he'd gone out west? I doubt it.

Rovers main target before the window closed was Sheppard, that fell through for whatever reason, so Rovers ask Fenn his situation, he states he's a free agent, Rovers have that (apparantly)confirmed by the pfai and sign him, I don't see what Rovers have done wrong in that respect. Whatever about how Fenn got his contract cancelled is another matter and needs clarifying, but the conspiracy theorists/anti MON heads on here make me laugh with their crackpot theories.

Yes because we know the "model club" would do no wrong pure coincidence that the two "contract breaking deals (Fenn and Turner) revolve around the same club ?

or perhaps, as ever, you believe that no one should question anything at Rovers ?

[pineapple stu]

Again, you ignore that Sligo reneged on Turner's contract and make it all out to be Rovers' fault. In fact, Sligo were the ones investigated after it, as I recall.

Not saying that Rovers are squeaky clean here, but you need to start looking at all the facts.

[marinobohs]

There's absolutely no difference at all between the case I'm talking about. Except the outcome. In the case I'm talking about the player couldn't get out of his contract, and he was transferred to another club. In this case Fenn got out of his contract.

Dodge, if its the Ndo case
- player asked for transfer from club A# to club B#
- club A (holder of registration) put huge price on player, as entitled to.
- club B do not meet price and do not sign player
_club A pay players wages to play for bitterest rivals of club B in petty move.

So if Dundalk announce that they are to continue paying fenn while he sees out the season at Bohs then, yes, the cases will be the same

# clubs A and B may or may not be St Pats and Bohs.