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    Herald: http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/os...n-2294176.html

    Those aren't even close to each other - could almost be from different interviews if certain sections didn't sound similar. I really wish journalists would stop using shorthand and embrace cutting edge modern technology like tape recorders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sullivinho View Post
    We desperately need to replace Kilbane and I'd take that gamble against Armenia and Andorra but I'd be less confident pitching him in against the bigger teams in the group at this stage in his development. It's far from ideal, but I'd be more inclined to move O'Shea over and bring Kelly in at RB. He has his moments (Georgia in Dublin comes to mind) but I find him easier on the nerves than McShane. Who worryingly, appears to be a favourite of Trap's.
    A left back is the nr 1 issue. I think Trap is looking for reasons to start Cunningham who he sees as the only viable option. But the opinion appears to be - he is good but he is young. I think KK will be there with Cunningham thereabouts but he will surely get his break.

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    http://canchallena.lanacion.com.ar/1...-poder-obsceno

    Interesting. It's alleged that Ireland were offered this friendly with Argentina to appease us post Henrygate. There was a problem with insurance though, so allegedly the Irish players were offered 10K a man not to injure him. Laughable.
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    Ireland, you know, menaced with a millionaire trial. He had been without going to the 2010 World Cup because France won the decisive match with an illegal goal, scored by Gallas, but the hand of Thierry Henry in the previous action.
    Weeks ago, amid the uncovering of corruption in FIFA, we learned that Joseph Blatter Ireland calmed paying 5 million euros, a deal that outraged much of the British press.

    What is not known is that the agreement, as usually happens in all negotiations, included a secret part. It was Julio Grondona who suggested a solution that would calm Blatter once and for all Irish fury:

    "We took him to Messi". The friendly, which also served for the debut of Sergio Batista as coach of the team after the dismissal of Diego Maradona, was scheduled for August 11, 2010 in Dublin, ideal for the inauguration of the new Aviva Stadium. Barcelona, ​​which was preseason in China, put the outcry. There was no where to get the $ 5 million that were needed to pay for insurance. The match will be played, Argentina won 1-0 with goals from Angel Di Maria and Messi showed only glimpses of his class, two major ratings missed by his colleagues.


    "And how about the insurance solucionaste Messi?" He asked an officer. "Ten thousand dollars to every Irish player to not get hit," said the AFA president who ruled for 35 years. Before his story, he looked up the source (Grondona was already deceased), and said: "Forgive July so I will tell."


    Does this alleged secret negotiations that saved a millionaire FIFA trial in Grondona appears listeners? They hear that, in fact, do no more than confirm what had leaders from different clubs since the 80s on Grondona, but always off the record. Some did it out of fear. Others because they were perhaps part of the trap. Anyway, it was a routine: Grondona used to dedicate a moment of threats and insults every time I called looking for some official confirmation. Until he calmed down and allowed him to ask about a new topic.

    Always it produces some embarrassment hear conversations that are supposed to be private. "Society of transparency," the name of a fabulous book of Korean philosopher Byung-Chul Han, "like a hell of sameness." But even a football coach and not a banker who handled rates, also impressed to hear how powerful trading in privacy. It is the obscenity of power. The reference to the Paraguayan referee Carlos Amarilla, it is true, speaks of Boca that Grondona. But even when asked honest officials, Grondona recalls that knows fox and you also have to watch out for the linesmen, because he has already corrupted to some. More delicate is the interest Estudiantes de San Luis, the team of the rare money. The money used to build the empire. Until everything
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    The Argentina friendly was lined up long before the France match was even scheduled.

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    FAI issue statement denying the allegations: http://www.fai.ie/domestic/news/fai-...e-in-la-nacion
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe_denilson View Post
    http://canchallena.lanacion.com.ar/1...-poder-obsceno

    Interesting. It seems that Ireland were offered this friendly with Argentina to appease us post Henrygate. There was a problem with insurance though, so allegedly the Irish players were offered 10K a man not to injure him. Laughable.
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    Was the friendly not organised a year before the match though?
    Which have been before Thierry and co ?

    eitherway - the story is laughable
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    There's a video on Twitter if Dunne clattering into Messi and totally clearing him out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    There's a video on Twitter if Dunne clattering into Messi and totally clearing him out
    I presume that put paid to his Eur10k bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    The Argentina friendly was lined up long before the France match was even scheduled.
    Also, were we supposed to believe that Barcelona had agreed to release Messi on the basis the AFA would pay off the Irish players rather than make the insurance payment?

    What was the motive behind this bizarre story?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Also, were we supposed to believe that Barcelona had agreed to release Messi on the basis the AFA would pay off the Irish players rather than make the insurance payment?

    What was the motive behind this bizarre story?
    Far as I can tell, there are tapes that have emerged on Grondona discussing all sorts of things relating to corruption in football, and this is on one of them. He seems to have been bragging about how great he was to save FIFA all this trouble and obviously his imagination ran away with him.

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    Bumping thread.


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