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    Quote Originally Posted by dong View Post
    Maybe it should be a "brainer" from now on after the debacle the last night?
    Simply answering the question posed - which is why I quoted it !!!!! Cant believe any club would choose League win over Group stage qualification although some fans would - didnt say either was achievable or not. Dont worry, doubt you will ever have to worry about either

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    Quote Originally Posted by seand View Post
    It's a bit of an strange question. To qualify for the CL group stage you need to win the league first.
    Europa League is also European

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post
    Simply answering the question posed - which is why I quoted it !!!!! Cant believe any club would choose League win over Group stage qualification although some fans would - didnt say either was achievable or not. Dont worry, doubt you will ever have to worry about either
    We have won the league before. There is nothing to stop us from doing it again in the future.
    I see European progression as something that will never happen for a team in this country in any case.
    As for Europe, we did nothing with half a squad and a paltry budget last year. "The Big Club" did nothing with the biggest squad and budget in the league this year.
    i'll let you have the last word on it now though as it is usually important to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dong View Post
    We have won the league before. There is nothing to stop us from doing it again in the future.
    I see European progression as something that will never happen for a team in this country in any case.
    As for Europe, we did nothing with half a squad and a paltry budget last year. "The Big Club" did nothing with the biggest squad and budget in the league this year.
    i'll let you have the last word on it now though as it is usually important to you.
    Qualifying for Europe IS doing something (ask Sporting Fingal ).

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    Long time reader first time poster.
    Odd question to be fair.
    IMO reaching the group stages of a european competition would almost certainly guarantee the domestic league title for a fair few years after that, considering the amount of money it would generate for a club.

    or to simplify group stages of europe for me thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post
    Qualifying for Europe IS doing something (ask Sporting Fingal ).
    not if you get stuffed
    I wish i did not know then what I dont know now

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    Can you be greedy and say Both!
    Manager: Fergal, have you your boots with ya?
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    Quote Originally Posted by passerrby View Post
    not if you get stuffed
    better to have tried and failed..... any fan claiming they would rather their club did not get there than lose is talking crap. Only sorry we didnt get tonked two/three rounds further on.


    Presume Mons will only play in Europe when they can win it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post
    better to have tried and failed.....:D any fan claiming they would rather their club did not get there than lose is talking crap. Only sorry we didnt get tonked two/three rounds further on.


    Presume Mons will only play in Europe when they can win it ?
    Cant disagree with you there, oh hold on a minute how many million are Bohs in the crapper.
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    Tough choice, CL group qual or LOI champions?

    CL group qualification, €4m straight up, plus €12m approx, 1 draw €400k plus gate receipts etc.
    Winning LOI, prize €200k.

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    Group stage every day of the week for me as well.

    If Derry got into the group stage then league titles would be almost guaranteed the following few years with the money it would bring.
    So if you think Bohs are big read this. http://www.astronomy.ie/perpespective.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candystripe View Post
    Group stage every day of the week for me as well.

    If Derry got into the group stage then league titles would be almost guaranteed the following few years with the money it would bring.
    Are you quoting directly from Derry City's financial plan about 18 months ago?

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    Baby steps. League win first. Guaranteed prize money leading to another league with guaranteed prize money leading to more investment leading to antoher league with guaranteed prize money...stable financial footing...glory..

    Or hoping that a big team with big tv rights comes along...and not a group comprising TNS, Kilmarnock, Zimbru Chisinau and some Albanian team trying to throw matches...
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    Tell all the Bohs you know
    that we've gone and won two-in-a-row
    and it's not gonna be three
    and it's not gonna be four
    it's more likely to be 5-1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfx- View Post
    Baby steps. League win first. Guaranteed prize money leading to another league with guaranteed prize money leading to more investment leading to antoher league with guaranteed prize money...stable financial footing
    Cant agree more.
    Has to be League titles every time or even top four finish every year.
    European qualification with money invested in better squad and facilities(so you can at least host your own European games) leading to top four finish/ league title with European qualification money invested etc etc.
    "It's not the despair; I can handle the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." John Cleese on supporting a LOI club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfx- View Post
    League win first. Guaranteed prize money leading to another league with guaranteed prize money leading to more investment leading to another league with guaranteed prize money
    thats what shels did and look at them now.
    If you've nothing good to say, say it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by galwayjames View Post
    thats what shels did and look at them now.
    I think Ollie got up to a bit more than that.
    "It's not the despair; I can handle the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." John Cleese on supporting a LOI club.

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    Jeez lads,think about it.Get into the group satge of the Europa league and the money that would bring would be x20 times what a league title brings.

    It doesn't matter what teams are in the group with you as you're bound to get great TV money as well as prize money.

    Sets your club up for years therefore greater chance to deliver a league title the following year/s.
    So if you think Bohs are big read this. http://www.astronomy.ie/perpespective.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomofman View Post
    Can't imagine anyone would choose the league first...
    Anyone who hasn't won the league! I'd prefer a first league win to making the Europa League groups (or Champions' League groups in the unlikely situation of the league getting two CL spots). After winning the league, I'd go for Champions' League groups.
    We're not arrogant, we're just better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riddickcule
    Europe any day of the week, any hour of the day, any minute of the hour. You get my drift.
    Simple matter of arithmetic.

    League = 36 games over 8 months
    Europe = 6 games (max) over 6 weeks.

    When we go out of Europe in two weeks time, we have a league title to fight for.

    I think I'd rather the league tbh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redobit View Post
    Can you be greedy and say Both!
    See that's the great thing about football. You can be as greedy as you like. There's no limit on aspirations and you don't have to choose one competition over another. Just compete in every game and see where it gets you. So I'll have a league and cup double please, with Group Stages qualification on the side.
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