Quotewell instead of starting a new Jason Byrne thread i just searched for the old oneOriginally Posted by adamcarr
And you waited two years to say this, check the dates of the thread.
And you waited two years to say this, check the dates of the thread.He scored another two goals last night ,Bang on form at the minute
well instead of starting a new Jason Byrne thread i just searched for the old oneAnd you waited two years to say this, check the dates of the thread.
Check www.irishfootballonline.com
It breaks it into "LEAGUE" and "OTHER", Byrne has 13 and 8 in that order.
I don't think he can be overlooked much longer....token appearances are a slap in the face.
You have to look at what we've got up front - is he a better player than Robbie Keane, Kevin Doyle, Clinton Morrison, or a healthy Stephen Elliot?
Evidently not. But with what he can offer to a game when something different is needed, he is in pole position.
Elliot will always be injured or returning from injury. Its just the way he is.
Not good enough for Ireland in my opinion.
Life without Rovers, it makes no sense...it's a heartache...nothing but a fools game. S.R.F.C.
The evidence backs up claims that he should be in the squad, and should be getting an adaquate amount of gametime.If you look back in this thread, most of the barstoolers are saying that players from EL shouldn't be considered until clubs are consistantly getting through at least the 1st round in Europe.Clubs are now.Also, Byrne played very well against Chile, considering it was his first 'proper' go at it.
Elliot will permanently be injured so the debate is who is the 4th best forward Ireland has after Keane, Doyle, Morrison.
Candidates:
- Alan Lee
- Jason Byrne
- ??????
Rooney if he has a good season.
Is Marlon King still eligible for us btw?
Alan Lee is useless, I was at near enough every Cardiff match when he was here, and he was just, I don't know, constantly poor.Byrne is also better than Trundle.
No he declared for Jamaica
Maybe Shange Long could come into the mix if he gets a few more games for Reading this season.
He is only a kid & will unlikely see much action being 5th choice striker.
Well I did use the words maybe, could and if; in a 19 word sentenceI was just throwing his name in there as he hadn't been mentioned already.
However, if Coppel does the same as last season and prioritises the league ahead of the cups then he sould get a few starts in the FA or League Cup and if he does well there, there's the possibility of a few sub appearances in the league. I'm not sure if he is 4th or 5th choice as I don't know if Ki-Hyeon will be deployed in MF or as a striker. It's a long season and any of Kitson, Doyle and Lita could get a long term injury and with the limited transfer window it may not be possible to bring in a replacement straight away. Also if there are injuries to MF players Ki-Hyeon or Lita might have to play there. Kitson's injury early last season is what gave Doyle his chance after all. You are right though he his still only a young lad and although I expect him to make some progress this season it probably won't be enough to see him break into the full international squad. Maybe he might be there or there abouts for the last few games of the qualification campaign or for the start of the next one. Jayo would deffo be ahead of him at the moment.
Last edited by Irish_Praha; 30/07/2006 at 3:37 PM.
I'll be honest, I'm not a big fan of having players from the EL in the international squad. No disrespect to the EL but even the most ardent supporters of the league would admit that the fitness level just isn't at the same level as it is in England. That said you should have four strikers in the squad and if one of Keane, Morrison, Doyle or Elliott are unavailable then Jason Byrne should be the next choice to be in the squad. Doherty has shown time and again that he's not a striker, and he's getting well on in years now anyway.
Do you actually have a clue about EL football?If you did, then you would know that the fitness levels are very good, specifically in the last week when two Irish sides thoroughly layed into two very good teams, at the same time looking far fitter in the process.
It just infuriates me that every time a domestically based player excells, people who haven't the best interests of Irish football at heart lay down new criteria that they think the player should have to meet.Where does it end?
Last edited by Soper; 30/07/2006 at 5:09 PM.
i suspect this guy is on a wind up mission, either that or a complete buffoon.
so vega007, going on what you have recently posted in a neighbouring thread, you feel no players not born or raised in ireland should play for ireland, and yet you dont want any el players in the reckoning? mighty strange
and this idiotic take is based on fittness levels, despite many el players now being full-time players, and therefore i think its fair to assume, pretty fit. were you aware of that?
and Gary Doherty is 26.in his prime.
you are as good a case as ive seen in a while for everyone NOT being automatically entitled to an opinion.
In fairness Gary Doherty looked like a 40 year old back in the U-18 Euro days
But yea I dont think Doherty should ever be up front for us again . Supposedly he done really well for Norwich at CB last season
for sure he shouldnt appear up front for us ever again, and did do well for his club at C.B. in the latter half of last season, but ruling him out through his age displays only the how little vega007 actually knows about his subject.
the Docs age could well be all he does have going for him
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