Financial Implications of Euro Exit for Bohs

**Mark** · 26/07/2010, 10:32 AM

http://www.bohemians.ie/youth-ladies...hree-days.html

Maybe Fenlon should have played the ladies team against TNS

**Derry** · 26/07/2010, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by marinobohs

Bohs will not be carrying on the deficit budgeting of previous regimes (unlike other clubs we wont try and walk away from responsibilities either) and work already commenced on reversing that trend.
Fenlon was not given a target of reaching group stages so dissapointing as Tuesday night was it is more in a football context and consideration of viability of professional football next season. At no club has Fenlon spent more money than he was allowed (unlike some other managers) so to blame him for financial difficulties is wrong - blame those that sanctioned the spending. Christ sake he was hardly at Derry long enough to do damage even if he tried !!!

Well it did look at the time that he was trying. After all he signed 7 players all on big wages, with only one good enough for the team. When he left he didn't try to sign any of them for Bohs. We went from second in the table at the end of the season, to mid-table in 6 months. His reason for leaving apparently was that he wanted to be closer to his family, yet not too long after he was heading to Dundee. The fact was that Derry supporters were glad to see the back of him. He most certainly is a cheque book manager. his record so far prove that.

However i don't think he really has to sell any players, just tell them from now on they are only employed as players, and that they have to give up their other jobs, ie bar man, grounds man, etc, and that should save some money.

**marinobohs** · 26/07/2010, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by RoversHead

Actually Marino I was reffering to the posts in the members forum on bohs.com and Im looking forward to hearing your and SKs views on developements over the coming weeks,A move to part time time football before the end of the season seems to be at odds with your understanding of the situation,will you vote for or against at the EGM next week?

firstly there is no EGM next week (glad your sources are sooooooo credible). The discussion around full time football has been ongoing at Dalymount all season as most of our players contracts expire at the end of the season and we are considering what direction we want to take in the future. given contractural commitments it is very unlikely that Bohs operationwill change much before the season ends.
Given the depth of squad we have - and the poor showing by some newer signings we are open to offers for players. pleas let me know any club that has said it would not sell a player if a decent offer came in ?
When we have an AGM/EGM I will review the options put before the membership and vote for whatever option I think best for the club.

**marinobohs** · 26/07/2010, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by Derry

Well it did look at the time that he was trying. After all he signed 7 players all on big wages, with only one good enough for the team. When he left he didn't try to sign any of them for Bohs. We went from second in the table at the end of the season, to mid-table in 6 months. His reason for leaving apparently was that he wanted to be closer to his family, yet not too long after he was heading to Dundee. The fact was that Derry supporters were glad to see the back of him. He most certainly is a cheque book manager. his record so far prove that.

However i don't think he really has to sell any players, just tell them from now on they are only employed as players, and that they have to give up their other jobs, ie bar man, grounds man, etc, and that should save some money.

Yep, winning the League by 19 points with the 4th highest budget (and that was before Derrys creative accounting came to light ) sure proves it.

Do you really want to get into a debate about players and second contracts ?

**A N Mouse** · 26/07/2010, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by marinobohs

Yep, winning the League by 19 points with the 4th highest budget (and that was before Derrys creative accounting came to light ) sure proves it.

Do you really want to get into a debate about players and second contracts ?

What so you can tell us Derry were doing it wrong, and if you're going to have second contracts you should do it right, like the big club?

Or bohs don't do second contracts, but if they did they'd probably be the best...

**marinobohs** · 26/07/2010, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by A N Mouse

What so you can tell us Derry were doing it wrong, and if you're going to have second contracts you should do it right, like the big club?

Or bohs don't do second contracts, but if they did they'd probably be the best...

Bohs dont do second contracts but if they did they'd probobly be ........ relegated check the post I quoted - Derry slagging off Bohs about second jobs, obviously irony lost on some.

**Roo69** · 26/07/2010, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

Cry me a river, pal. This thread is about Bohs and i gave my opinions.

And i gave my opinion about Bohs too, whats the problem?

**poster** · 26/07/2010, 12:18 PM

This thread is foot.ie at its very best. Yeeehaw!

**dong** · 26/07/2010, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

sickening behaviour of the players and management team that one Bohs fan witnessed during the week. Sickening.

Is that a p1sstake Stu?
Hilarious. "They were buying Toblerones I tell ya, fooking Toblerones with their huge wages!!"

**seand** · 26/07/2010, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by dong

Is that a p1sstake Stu?
Hilarious. "They were buying Toblerones I tell ya, fooking Toblerones with their huge wages!!"

WHOOSH!

(Might want to turn on the sarcasmometer there bud)

**Dodge** · 26/07/2010, 12:58 PM

Fenlon in the press today saying that the "problems at the club" aren't related to the TNS defeat but rather "what being on at the club the last 3/4 years"

Funny thing is he thought this would placate fans.

He's admitted they've been running the club in the wrong manner for years now

**Ezeikial** · 26/07/2010, 1:00 PM

It looks like even Pat Fenlon has finally acknowledged the obvious

http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...t-2272600.html

Fenlon: Bohs woe not players’ fault

Monday July 26 2010

BOHEMIANS boss Pat Fenlon has hit back at the critics – and a section of his own fans – for the reaction to his side’s Champions League exit last Tuesday night, insisting that the club’s current financial turmoil is not down to just one defeat.

Speaking after his side’s win at Bray on Friday night, the former Shelbourne manager labelled a small section of the Gypsies support that travelled to Wales for the second round second leg defeat to The New Saints as “gobs****s.”

He was also unhappy with the treatment of his players after the 4-0 hammering, insisting that the club is now faced with huge cutbacks thanks to financial mismanagement over a number of years, not just the result of one poor performance on the pitch.

“A lot of the stuff that has been said and written about the players and in relation to the club was well over the top,” said Fenlon.

“I was critical after the game and rightly so.

“The players know that and they're their own biggest critics, they know themselves they didn't perform. I think to blame the players for one performance and that the club is in crisis because of that is very harsh.

“That's not the reality. The reality is that the club is in crisis because of what has gone on over a three or four-year period, not one game.”

Despite a turbulent week, the Bohs fans came out in force at the Carlisle Grounds on Friday and Fenlon believes that the positive reaction they received at the Wicklow venue was indicative of the club’s hard-core fan base.

“The genuine supporters at this club have been very good at this club since we've been here and I think they appreciate that this is the best team the club has ever had, in terms of trophies.

“You get the genuine fans here, not some of the gobs****s who were in Wales. They were a minority in fairness. The majority there got behind the team, but here you get the genuine fans who follow us all over the country and they're always good to us.”

**Dodge** · 26/07/2010, 1:04 PM

Thanks Ezekial was just going to post it there.

Open admission by Fenlon that the club is in crisis

“ The reality is that the club is in crisis because of what has gone on over a three or four-year period, not one game.”

**Mr A** · 26/07/2010, 1:11 PM

Surely it goes back further than 3 or 4 years....

**Ezeikial** · 26/07/2010, 1:14 PM

Originally Posted by Mr A

Surely it goes back further than 3 or 4 years....

Cue - Sean Connor vitriol......

**marinobohs** · 26/07/2010, 1:25 PM

Originally Posted by Ezeikial

Cue - Sean Connor vitriol......

...... and cue tired, hackneyed rubbish about "going broke" "relegation" "denied throphy if they win it" etc etc. In fact make it simpler by providing a link to the same nonsence posted last year.
Bohs difficulties accrued over a number of years and will, have to be addressed over a number of years. The sale of Dalymount will be the fulcrum on which the clubs future will be decided but there is also need for more frugal outlays going forward (this has commenced with the wage bill almost halved in little over a year).

**SupaJon** · 26/07/2010, 1:35 PM

not some of the gobs****s who were in Wales.

How do the Bohs fans on here feel about that comment?

Was it those who were booing that he's referring to or did something else happen?

**marinobohs** · 26/07/2010, 1:51 PM

Originally Posted by SupaJon

How do the Bohs fans on here feel about that comment?

Was it those who were booing that he's referring to or did something else happen?

Bohs (like every other club) has some gobsh1tes among its support. On a couple of occasions this season Nutsey has had a go at fans abusing players after poor performances so nothing new.
Incidentially he also said most of the Bohs fans were sound so we all just take it that was us he was talking about

**dcfcsteve** · 26/07/2010, 1:57 PM

Fenlon in full defensive mode.

Revealiing that the club is in crisis, and it's not just the result of losing to TNS.

Bizarrely calling his own fans "gobsh!tes" and proclaiming that the ones that didn't go to the effort of travelling to Wales are the real supporters....?!

The beginning of the end for Fenlon ? Discuss...