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    The Guardian is reporting that Shay Given has decided to fight for his place at City despite interest from Fulham. That would likely mean Mark Schwarzer stays put at Fulham, and Arsenal rely on Manuel Almunia until January at the earliest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colbert Report View Post
    The Guardian is reporting that Shay Given has decided to fight for his place at City despite interest from Fulham.
    Hoping your rival gets injured/kidnapped in Colombia/lost in the Bermuda triangle is always a battle.

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    Well at least it means he is less likely to be injured and thus available to play for us, which is good news?

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    No, I'd rather him play, even if it were in the Championship. The only way he'll play for Man City is if Hart gets injured. Unlikely but not impossible.

    I've had enough of greedy footballers. Given isn't willing to leave because no one else is willing to match his wages.

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    City could have up to 70 games this season - there's no way Hart is going to play them all. If Given has decided to stay, it's because Mancini has guaranteed him action in certain competitions.

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    I would go so far as to say that Shay will get virtually all the cup games and Hart will get the Prem games. I'd say the only reason he was omitted from the Europa league initially was because Mancini didn't want to cup tie him and reduce his transfer value if a team in European competition came in for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irishfan86 View Post
    I would go so far as to say that Shay will get virtually all the cup games and Hart will get the Prem games. I'd say the only reason he was omitted from the Europa league initially was because Mancini didn't want to cup tie him and reduce his transfer value if a team in European competition came in for him.
    Really? You think he'd play Shay in the Europa League knockout stages whilst Hart starts against the likes of Blackpool? I can't see it.

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    Europa League is considered a B competition by most people. Okay, as you get further into the competition things become more serious, but there's no guarantee they'll get that far given the fact it will be the B squad that will play most of the early matches.

    I realize Man City's B squad is very very good, but they don't play together regularly and none of them will be firing on all cylinders. Maybe I'm wrong but that's the way I'd see things going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colbert Report View Post
    Really? You think he'd play Shay in the Europa League knockout stages whilst Hart starts against the likes of Blackpool? I can't see it.

    It does seem like Mancini intended to play Given in the game against Timisoara on Thursday but he may have decided against this as Given would then have been cup-tied for Europe.
    http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...t-2299777.html

    However, on Friday, after they had qualified for the group stages, Mancini again said that Shay might play some of the group games in the Europa league. Mancini has consistently said that he needs two top goalkeepers as City are involved in four competitions. Hopefully Shay has received some assurances about getting games and I am sure he is confident of winning his place back if he is given the chance to impress.
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    I'm not a professional footballer but surely you could play goalkeepers 365 days a year without getting tired? Most of the time 'keepers are just picking their noses and checking out birds in the crowd.

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    class CR!

    on topic, i'd be very disappointed in Given if he had a good option but didnt move.
    I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.

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    In a way I can understand him staying, it doesn't look great walking away at the first sign of trouble; however, he is a goalkeeper and his chances are going to be limited. I can't see Mancini rotating either his keeper of his back 4 during the league, it's the one area of the pitch where you need a constant, so yes I imagine he will miss the likes of Blackpool and West Brom games. So between now and January, when the transfer window opens again, he will get EL games, and league cup games. 6 games in Europe, and then 3 games in the league cup. At his age, he needs games. Frankly that just isn't enough.
    Realistically, Hart is not going to be dropped. He has started the season in great form, as he needs to be, justifying the City decision to pick him. I feel sorry for Shay, taking his performances into account last season, he definitely was hard done by being dropped for the new season, especially considering the effort he made to get fit again. That said City probably have made the correct decision in the long term for them.
    As someone else said, if there was a decent move on offer for Shay and he's turned it down, well I'd be disappointed.
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    Sadly it looks like Shay is more concerned about the money he would lose by moving to Fulham or some other club who would not be able to match the wages he is on at the moment.
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    could be an interesting ruse to shoe-horn Wenger into making a move for him. Wenger wants another keeper -but evidently Shay is not his first choice. Shays staying in Manchester means Wenger doesn't get his preferred option Shwarzer... Soooooooo....
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    Quote Originally Posted by drummerboy View Post
    Sadly it looks like Shay is more concerned about the money he would lose by moving to Fulham or some other club who would not be able to match the wages he is on at the moment.
    i think this is unfair. for years he was urged by Irish fans to leave newcastle to play at a bigger club where he might get champions lge action, challenge for titles etc. Now some are having a go at him for staying at such a club and turning down someone like fulham who are nothing more than the team given left behind at newcastle. he cant win with some of you.

    whats wrong with him wanting to stay and fight for his place rather than running the first time in his career he isnt getting first team football??

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    Hopefully the curse strikes again. Hart makes a howler for England, looses all confidence as a result - hey presto Given is back in.

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    Was just about to make a comment along those lines bholg. He's one screw up away from becoming a national joke. Such is the life of an England No. 1.
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    Besiktas apparently trying to sign Robbie on a season-long loan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irishfan86 View Post
    Was just about to make a comment along those lines bholg. He's one screw up away from becoming a national joke. Such is the life of an England No. 1.
    I think the English meeja was summed up by the Suns headline the other day on the announcement of Capellos squad

    "Jackass" with a picture of Capello with horse -ears.

    Why did he deserve this treatment??! Because he had left superstars Jack Wilshere and (some other relatively young untested player) out of his squad.

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    I noticed Westwood was on the bench for Coventry at the weekend. Surely this can only be due to the fact that he is on his way out of the club???

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