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    Starting 11 & Squad, now that Keane's back?

    I think Keanes return means the end of Mark Kinsella and Lee Carsleys Irish careers, especially when you take into consideration McAteers return as well, along with the gradual introduction of Thornton and Douglas in the future. My starting 11, based on current form & experience would be:

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    Carr, Cunningham, O'Brien, O'Shea
    McAteer, Keane, Kilbane, Duff
    Keane, Morrisson

    Subs\Squad
    GK: Kenny, Colgan
    DEF: Finnan, Harte, Breen, Doherty
    MID: A Reid, Miller, Healy, Kavanagh, Holland
    FWD: Lee, Connolly

    OUT: Kinsella, Carsley, McPhail, Delap, S Reid, Maybury, Dunne (just pipped by Doherty)

    Future Players:
    GK: Stack, Murphy
    DEF: S Kelly, J Thompson, P McCarthy, P McShane
    MID: S Thornton, J Douglas, W Flood, D Potter
    FWD: S Elliott, A McGeady, M Yeates, J Walters

    There could be a case for putting Miller into the centre, pushing Kilbane out wide with Duffer up front, but I don't think you get the best out of Duffer this way. Miller & Reid could also play on the right instead of McAteer, though I would expect McAteer to start the French and Swiss games. Good squad all the same!
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    didnt Carsley bow out last week anyway
    Bring back the plank

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    Should be interesting to see Jayo and K***e in the same team!

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    didnt Carsley bow out last week anyway
    Yup, but only temporarily for a few months. I think Keanes return has finished him completely now, barring an injury crisis.

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    Carr Cunningham Breen O'Shea

    McAteer Kilbane Kavanagh Duff

    Keane Lee

    would be the way to go IMO.

    Bench:
    Colgan,Kenny, Finnan, O'Brien, Doherty, A Reid, Miller, Healy, K**ne, Morrison, Connolly, Douglas.

    Keane has no right to walk straight back in the team,and on current form he isn't good enough to start IMO

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    GK: Given
    RB: Carr
    CB: Cunningham
    CB: Breen
    LB: Harte
    RM: McAteer
    CM: Kilbane
    CM: Holland
    LM: Duff
    FW: Keane
    FW: Connelly

    Bench:
    Colgan, Kenny, Finnan, Kinsella, Doherty, A Reid, Kavanagh, Healy, O'Shea, Morrison, Miller, Douglas.

    On their day, that could be an excellent team and capable of at least holding France to a draw.
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    Carr Cunningham O'Brien O'Shea
    DeLap Keane Kilbane Duff
    Keane Morrison

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    Quote Originally Posted by brendy_éire
    GK: Given
    RB: Carr
    CB: Cunningham
    CB: Breen
    LB: Harte
    RM: McAteer
    CM: Kilbane
    CM: Holland
    LM: Duff
    FW: Keane
    FW: Connelly

    Bench:
    Colgan, Kenny, Finnan, Kinsella, Doherty, A Reid, Kavanagh, Healy, O'Shea, Morrison, Miller, Douglas.

    On their day, that could be an excellent team and capable of at least holding France to a draw.
    I didn't know Roy the boy played centre forward?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brendy_éire
    GK: Given
    RB: Carr
    CB: Cunningham
    CB: Breen
    LB: Harte
    RM: McAteer
    CM: Kilbane
    CM: Holland
    LM: Duff
    FW: Keane
    FW: Connelly

    Bench:
    Colgan, Kenny, Finnan, Kinsella, Doherty, A Reid, Kavanagh, Healy, O'Shea, Morrison, Miller, Douglas.

    On their day, that could be an excellent team and capable of at least holding France to a draw.
    Connolly? He's never cut it at international level IMHO. I'd say persist with Morrison as first choice for a few more games, with Alan Lee (after what I thought was an excellent twenty minutes against the Czechs) as back-up and optional target-man.

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    Play Connolly and Harte but not Keane.
    Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

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    Carr - Cunningham - O'Shea - Finnan

    S Reid - Miller - Keane - A Reid - Duff

    Keane

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    Quote Originally Posted by brine2
    Given

    Carr - Cunningham - O'Shea - Finnan

    S Reid - Miller - Keane - A Reid - Duff

    Keane
    I'd have O'Brien in place of O'Shea, and as Éanna posted above, I don't think RMK is in good enough form to warrant a starting place at the moment. I'd have Delap instead of Steven Reid (switching Andy Reid out to the right), and Morrison up front for RMK in a 4-4-2 instead, at least for a few games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
    I don't think RMK is in good enough form to warrant a starting place at the moment
    but Miller is on the back of three substitute appearances and about seventy minutes of football, come on lads, get real

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    Quote Originally Posted by brendy_éire
    GK: Given
    RB: Carr
    CB: Cunningham
    CB: Breen
    LB: Harte
    RM: McAteer
    CM: Kilbane
    CM: Holland
    LM: Duff
    FW: Keane
    FW: Connelly

    Bench:
    Colgan, Kenny, Finnan, Kinsella, Doherty, A Reid, Kavanagh, Healy, O'Shea, Morrison, Miller, Douglas.

    On their day, that could be an excellent team and capable of at least holding France to a draw.
    lol @ brendy_eire! Man you're going to have to accept that he's back at some point! Ian Harte, left back in the Stade de France . IMO, Holland is nothing more than, as Eric Cantona once put it, a water carrier. He's shocking, and if he plays in France, we're fooked. I actually forgot about Delap, must amend my first post. As for Steven Reid.......... the bulldozer needs to learn how to swivel his hips before he can get anywhere near the Irish team again - the man can only run in straight lines

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiktok
    but Miller is on the back of three substitute appearances and about seventy minutes of football, come on lads, get real
    Don't get me started on Miller...

    If you're interested, watch the Celtic-Villarreal game tonight. He's due to start in place of Alan Thompson, who's suspended. If he plays to potential (and plenty of us Tims think he owes us the game of his life, but I digress) then you'll see why I think he should start ahead of RMK. At least for the first few games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
    Don't get me started on Miller...

    If you're interested, watch the Celtic-Villarreal game tonight. He's due to start in place of Alan Thompson, who's suspended. If he plays to potential (and plenty of us Tims think he owes us the game of his life, but I digress) then you'll see why I think he should start ahead of RMK. At least for the first few games.

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    Well, maybe for the friendlies, because you must remember that Miller only has about 25 minutes of international experience thus far. But when it comes to going away to the Swiss and the French, Keane has to, and will, start. The same goes for McAteer ahead of A Reid, based purely on big match experience.

    How many of us thought that we would ever even be having this discussion? I think its great that Keane's back, and I don't think that it will affect team morale at all, quite the opposite. Maybe apart from McAteer (who nobody in the squad takes seriously anyway, esp Keane) and le water carrier Matt Holland, who's useless. My only worry is that morale might be affected by idiot fans who might choose to boo Keane instead of supporting the team. Lets hope these idiots stay away from LR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4tothefloor
    My only worry is that morale might be affected by idiot fans who might choose to boo Keane instead of supporting the team. Lets hope these idiots stay away from LR.
    As I've said elsewhere, I can't see that happening. The welcome may be less than enthusiastic from some, but once he dons the green shirt, that's it. He's an Ireland player again and will get the backing commensurate with that position.

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    Thumbs up

    Lets hope so

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    When did McAteer say he was coming back? this is news to me (of course i don't live there anymore).

    Himself and Keane will probably kill each other at the first training session!

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    GK: Given
    RB: Carr
    CB: Cunnigham (C)
    CB: O'Brien
    LB: O'Shea
    RM: Miller
    CM: Roy Keane
    CM: Kavanagh
    LM: Duff
    CF: Keane
    CF: Lee

    Subs:
    GK: Kenny
    GK: Colgan
    DF: Breen
    DF: Finnan
    DF: Harte
    DF: Doherty
    MF: McAteer
    MF: Holland
    MF: A Reid
    MF: Kilbane
    MF: Healy
    MF: Delap
    CF: Morrison
    CF: Connolly
    CF: Byrne

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