QuoteI think thats the pint. people sholdn't be attached to one company. use whatever is best for your situation. be it boat, ryanair, aer lingus or any of the others.
[[/QUOTE]QUOTE=Real ale Madrid;1371304]Flew with Ryanair a good few times and never once had a problem with them. I Ignore all the people passing with all the scratch cards and I buy a newspapaer cheaper in the terminal.
I fly Cork to Amsterdam with Aer lingus every week and talking to various people that would not have been affordable in the pre ryanair days when Aer lingus used to charge what they liked. So I get to come home and see my wife / family every weekend so I'm actually grateful to Michael O'Leary for that.
As long as its safe to fly with Ryanair - I dont think you can have too many complaints about them given how cheap the flights are. Make sure you read all the T and C's before you leave.
I'm surprised to hear that the Dub - Leeds flight is rarely on time. I've flown ( off the top of my head ) Cork- Dub, Cork - Stans, Dub -eindhoven, Dub - Newcastle, Dub - Preswick, over the past year or so, and not once have I ever been on a flight that was late.
The Dublin / Leeds / Dublin flights are one in the morning and one in the evening meaning that air craft is prob on a dublin / Birmingham / Dublin or some other place during the day. As it is the last light in that crafts sector any delay has a knock on effect. Not to be pedantic but just to back up my experience.
On the safety issue, Ryan air are the safest airline you could ever hope to fly with. Think about it..... They are seen to have made airline travel affordable (i disagree but that's another battle) by driving costs, employee productivity, screwing airports and suppliers. It could be perceived corners are cut. So if there was an accident their reputation would be destroyed big style, O Learly knows that and safety, maintanance, pilot training, are areas not skimped on. In fact I have heard that Ryanair pay more to their capatins than Aerlingus (737 800 against Shamrocks A321) for flying the same type of air craft, to keep experienced (and therefore skilled pilots) at the company.
I remember flying Ryanair Dublin leeds Dublin, Dublin East Midlands Dublin, and then Dublin Newcast Dublin on Aerlingus in about 8 days. The difference in service on the Shamrock flight was tangibile. Failte as you came on board, nice green uniforms, pleasent smiles in an Irish Accent, more leg room etc. No comparison, I just wish they flew to more places. Personally, I think the difference is worth about 100 euro per ticket to fly with anyone else other than Ryanair. But as someone said it's about accesability and FR go to places others don't.
I think thats the pint. people sholdn't be attached to one company. use whatever is best for your situation. be it boat, ryanair, aer lingus or any of the others.
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Needed to get a ticket to London for tomorrow morning, got one from Lufthansa, half the price of both Ryanair and Air Lingus
From which Irish airport to which London Airport? It's very difficult to compare like with like Ryanair. EG Dublin to CDG Paris with EI might cost 200 euro where as Dublin to BEAV Paris might costs 100 with FR but you have a one hour bus into Paris with FR costing about 25 euro when I last did it plus two more hours travelling time for a return trip. Suits some people but not all, which is what people are generally saying on here.
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Needed to get a ticket to London for tomorrow morning, got one from Lufthansa, half the price of both Ryanair and Air Lingus
Last edited by Fr Damo; 29/06/2010 at 10:29 AM.
Lufthansa quoted me E750 one way from Dublin to Frankfurt last year. One-off prices don't really mean much.
I've not really had a problem with Ryanair to be honest, once you know what you're getting. Did make the mistake last week of getting a taxi to a Ryanair airport (Trieste). Won't be doing that again...
Did the driver have to take a kidney, or was there a gold bullion salesman at the airport who took your credit card?Originally Posted by pineapple stu
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There was an extra tenner adminstration charge on paying by gold bullion, so I just hit him over the head and ran.
(It was E80, if anyone's curious. Check the bus timetables when you arrive!)
I flew to Frankfurt from Dublin and back from Berlin using Aer Lingus as Lufthansa were charging more than double.
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Fully agree with that. Apart from their seats being a tad uncomfortable theres not a whole lot else wrong with their flights.
In all walks of life, you get what you pay for and thats what it boils down to with Ryanair.
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Apart from the obvious moral issues about using a company that treats it's staff the way they do (or rather the agency staff they use to operate), I've always found the service crap. They've never been on time whenever I've used them, uncomfortable seats and (understandably to a degree) ignorant staff.
Now maybe if you were flying very regularly you could do a cost benefit analysis, but for the few times a year I fly they'd have to be significantly cheaper. Whenever I've been looking, Aer Lingus have been there or thereabouts (cheaper a lot of the time), and although their service levels have gone down they are still way better than Ryanair.
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Two things bug me about Ryanair.
1) The seats do not cater for people who are 6 ft 4.
2) Credit card/online check in fees. Just advertise the flight as £50 instead of £2. I'll still fly with you.
Fingers crossed I've yet to have a bad experience with them. Ok when the plane is full and everybody is fighting to get to the front of the queue before you board then it can be a bit of a nightmare but if your flying to Knock and there are only 8 other passengers it can be bliss!
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Personally, I love Ryanair. I use them more or less every month and have taken over 100 flights with them. I can honestly say I've never been delayed with them (bar a few times with snow, but that's nobody's fault really). They're always on time because if they're not, the crew and regional manager get a bollocking from head office.
People complain about charges, service, etc. But the rules are there, and as Mick himself would say, I ye don't like it, use someone else.
Read the rules, pack sensibly, use a prepaid Mastercard and you'll be sorted.
The luggage thing sometimes is annoying. We'd great craic trying to bring a drum back from Denmark in March. Got the drum into a bag, and wore all our clothes. Maybe a bit extreme, but the return flights from Edinburgh-Billund were free. Not 1c. It almost feels like a game, trying to beat Mick and all his ways of getting more money out of ye.
I do book connecting flights with them. I know they tell you not to, and I accept the risk, but do other airlines refund you for a missed connection?
Personally, I love Ryanair. I couldn't go to half the places I go to if they didn't exist and they've forced Aer Lingus and Easyjet to drop their prices to affordable levels. Yes, I like the service on Aer Lingus more, but not so much that I'll pay extra for it.
Adam, I'd recommend trying them. Ye might be surprised.
When booked on the same ticket the ticket the ticketing carrier is responsible for getting you there,so if you miss a connection, they re-book at their cost. Its called an interline agreement, and all major carriers have them (apart from Ryanair and the other low cost carriers).
Agree with what you say, its horses for courses.
I've been using Ryanair since 1995 and while they've changed (sometimes for the worse) they are still reliable and good. The worst experience I had was ocming back on the late flight from Brussels-Charleois in 2002. A bunch of Feyenoord fans carried on which meant their flight to Glasgow (where they were to play Rangers) was cancelled and our flight was messed up and we had to fly to Glasgow, then Dublin - arriving at 3am. I was not happy and their attitude was lousy, especially when you consider we were sitting without news for 3 hours in a shut down terminal.
Another time flying into Trieste (trying to get in time to catch a bus to Rijeka) and we were delayed because of fog, landing way late, near midnight. We landed, were left sitting on the plane for more than an hour and a half while someone had to be woken from bed to open the terminal. It was a complete mess and the Italians on board went mental and it just messed up all travel plans.
Overall I think they do a good job, they're not luxury, they should be a bit more user friendly, and some of their behaviour borders on complete dishonesty. I've flown all the major low fares carriers in Europe and the CIS, Germanwings and Wizz were terrific, while the new Russian offering Avianova, is a real goer.
Last flight I took with Ryanair was an early morning out of Dublin, I'd bought a sandwich and tea to wake me up, but got in line and just didn't feel like it. I got to the gate and was told, in a nice jovial way, "Sorry, you can't bring hot drinks on board". I did a doubletake and just said, grand, left it behind and boarded - and like the plum that I am bought a tea! Still, at that hour of the morning I just didn't care.
Just on charges, I have to say I was impress last year when booking with easyjet that the figure I eneded up paying was less than the figure advertised. They had preloaded things like insurance etc into the charges and I guess some call that cheeky but I don't mind taking my time and going through each section. wasn't much different but made a pleasant change
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They've had a number of near misses, and there have been safety issues highlighted (and obviously denied) in the past. Can they really do all the checks in the turnaround times they attempt? I'd suggest that air travel is more regulated now than it would've been in the past - given they are a relatively young company, that has to be the main factor in their safety record rather than them going above and beyond?
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Ryanair have the largest fleet movements in Europe and possibly the World so on the law of percentages there maybe one or two situations a year -these things happen. As I said, one accident, fatal, over shoot, crash on take off etc and confidence in the airline is gone. They get more bad press than anyother airline (some of it justified) so it is convienent to pedal safety issues. Aerarann, Aer Lingus turnaround in 30mins, how is 25 minutes deemed unsafe?Macy
They've had a number of near misses, and there have been safety issues highlighted (and obviously denied) in the past. Can they really do all the checks in the turnaround times they attempt? I'd suggest that air travel is more regulated now than it would've been in the past - given they are a relatively young company, that has to be the main factor in their safety record rather than them going above and beyond?
Flightdeck Checklists, refueling, waste removal can obvioulsy be done in that time frame and I suggest the 30 or 40 mins used by Flag carriers is simply hoovering up crisps!! An Aerlingus captain fly about 1000 hours a year, Ryanair do 1800.
On the subject of Cheap European Airtravel, Easyjet started first but could not expand fast and were quickly caught up by Tony Ryan who expaned his fleet by using ineffiecent but inexpensive 737 200s to fly to airports no one heard of. It has worked, no question.
If Micheal O Ceillagh reads this (CEO Aerarann) will you put on Leeds - Galway again please.
Last edited by Fr Damo; 01/07/2010 at 4:02 PM.
What 'near misses'? An engine fire and a bird strike (so I can find).
As for turnaround time, Southwest Airlines in the US can do it in 15 minutes, mainly because people leave from the front of the plane and enter at the rear, so both boarding and disembarking are done at the same time. Ryanair should do that.
Putting aside Ryanair rear entry jokes, I think that the turnaround time is pretty strong as it stands.
I don't know if it's fair to include the landing at a wrong airport as a near miss. But it's a good point the amount of time Ryanair craft spend in the air they have a remarkable record. Though it always is a worry of when it could happen. I've never been nervous on Ryanair, they can't afford to mess up.
When you've seen one runway you've seen them all! For those that don't know a flight due to land at Derry ender up er... 8 miles away at kilkelly. Landed on visual, no glidescope, weather reports etc. showers how good those Ryanair pilots air!Ahem!! Provided they get the right airport of course!I don't know if it's fair to include the landing at a wrong airport as a near miss.
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