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    The Bulgarian Press comment on potential opponents for Levski Sofia:

    http://translate.google.com/translat...ient=firefox-a
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    Levski have some good fans...................

    http://www.ultraslevski.org/0910/091...2-0/index.html

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zfA1...ayer_embedded#!

    (good luck to the dundalk massive , if they get through!!!)

    TNS reaction to draw
    http://www.saints-alive.co.uk/phpBB3...php?f=3&t=3094

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    Quote Originally Posted by Réiteoir View Post
    The Bulgarian Press comment on potential opponents for Levski Sofia:

    http://translate.google.com/translat...ient=firefox-a
    Awesome stuff.... for those of you who couldn't be bothered clicking on Réiteoir's link, it really is worth it....


    The most ferocious Irish audience waiting Levski

    Dandolk team that can play against Levski in the second round of the League is Europe's most famous savage audiences in Ireland, says "7 dni sport".

    Blue will face the winner of the match Dandolk - Grevenmacher (Luxembourg), for the moment to define the Irish favorite.

    Three years ago Dandolk fans attacked the office of the Irish Football Association, and the wildest of them are known mujahideen.


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    Three years ago Dandolk fans attacked the office of the Irish Football Association, and the wildest of them are known mujahideen. - haha brilliant!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dublin Red View Post
    Three years ago Dandolk fans attacked the office of the Irish Football Association, and the wildest of them are known mujahideen. - haha brilliant!!!
    would that not be the maxihideen
    I wish i did not know then what I dont know now

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    so lets get down to the nitty grtiiey,

    say this happens (in my head most likely) and being quite realistic edging towards optimism on shams and dundalks behalf's

    Bohs: win first 2 games, then draw,loose in the next two, and then draw,loose in the two after

    shams: win,draw, then draw,loose

    dundalk: win,win then loose,loose

    fingal: draw,loose

    just out of interest where would results like this put us co-efficient wise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acornvilla View Post
    so lets get down to the nitty grtiiey,

    say this happens (in my head most likely) and being quite realistic edging towards optimism on shams and dundalks behalf's

    Bohs: win first 2 games, then draw,loose in the next two, and then draw,loose in the two after

    shams: win,draw, then draw,loose

    dundalk: win,win then loose,loose

    fingal: draw,loose

    just out of interest where would results like this put us co-efficient wise?
    Basically this is what is needed for us to stand still in the ranking.

    We are, more or less, the highest ranked country never to have a team in the group stages of a uefa competition. The only way to move up the rankings at this stage would be qualification for the group stages.

    Basically we're going to start yo-yoing up and down 4 or 5 places. Unless with a lucky draw/good performances someone starts geting to those group stages once every 4/5 years.

    Oh, and having the same teams qualify regularly, picking up their own co-efficient also helps - improves chance of a better draw in the earlier rounds.
    Last edited by A N Mouse; 27/06/2010 at 12:00 PM. Reason: and another thing

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    Lets hope Bohs get an easy draw after they beat TNS. They'd want to avoid Basel, Anderlecht, Copenhagen and Rosenborg to stand a chance of getting to the play off round. Of which they go into the EL group stages if they lose. So I think theres good chance for Bohs in this.

    I don't think Dundalk can beat Levski Sofia, and that will be the end of their run.

    Fingal won't get past Maritimo.

    Rovers will get past Ulisses/Bnei Yehuda, and hopefully a lucky draw for them and then they will get knocked out in the play off round.

    Sorted and btw whats with all this play off business, yet again UEFA siding with the big boys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riddickcule View Post

    Sorted and btw whats with all this play off business, yet again UEFA siding with the big boys.
    It actually made it harder for them, but anyway...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    It actually made it harder for them, but anyway...
    Yeah but more importantly it made it harder for smaller clubs. Because theres a gaurantee of playing a big club before you have any chance of getting into the group stages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riddickcule View Post
    Yeah but more importantly it made it harder for smaller clubs. Because theres a gaurantee of playing a big club before you have any chance of getting into the group stages.
    What are you talking about?

    It's not like they added an extra round.

    It's fairer all round. Guaranteed places for actual champions. If anything the chances of a winnable tie for unseeded champions is increased, as the non-champions from the 'big' leagues are arguably better than some of the higher ranked champions.

    And surely a guaranteed tie against a big club, as you put, is a good thing - big club = big payday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acornvilla View Post
    so lets get down to the nitty grtiiey,

    say this happens (in my head most likely) and being quite realistic edging towards optimism on shams and dundalks behalf's

    Bohs: win first 2 games, then draw,loose in the next two, and then draw,loose in the two after

    shams: win,draw, then draw,loose

    dundalk: win,win then loose,loose

    fingal: draw,loose

    just out of interest where would results like this put us co-efficient wise?
    That's loosely what might happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fionnsci View Post
    That's loosely might happen.

    you heard it here first folks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acornvilla View Post
    just out of interest where would results like this put us co-efficient wise?
    i did a bit of studying and the basic knowledge we need to know is :

    this year we lose our best co-efficient points total ever, from 06/07, when we got 2.833 (largely due to derry knocking out gothenburg and gretna and getting a draw with psg in the uefa cup, and cork city knocking out apollon limassol in the champions league)

    to stay in our current position in 29th we probably need to get around the same again this year.

    to put it in perspective last year we got 1.375

    however this year it's unlikely dundalk will do a sligo (go out to a much poorer side) and bohs should progress in the champions league, unlike last year.

    the most likely outcome of this season will be:

    dundalk beat grevenmacher in both games and getting a draw with levski sofia after losing the first leg - that's 0.875 for the co-efficient i think

    bohs beat tns home and away before getting a draw in next round and losing the other leg. going into the europa league and getting a draw as well but probably losing the other leg. then bohs would contribute near to 1.000

    presuming rovers and fingal get a draw each and that's 0.333 towards the co-efficient

    so this year's co-efficient should add up to 2.208 which would be our third best total in history however a bit short of 2.833. looking at the co-efficients table it looks like we at worst go down two and at best go up one but it's most likely we stay in 29th.

    btw i didn't study your predictions but i would estimate they would get us around 4.000 which would almost certainly put us up the table.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riddickcule View Post
    Lets hope Bohs get an easy draw after they beat TNS. They'd want to avoid Basel, Anderlecht, Copenhagen and Rosenborg to stand a chance of getting to the play off round. Of which they go into the EL group stages if they lose. So I think theres good chance for Bohs in this.

    I don't think Dundalk can beat Levski Sofia, and that will be the end of their run.

    Fingal won't get past Maritimo.

    Rovers will get past Ulisses/Bnei Yehuda, and hopefully a lucky draw for them and then they will get knocked out in the play off round.

    Sorted and btw whats with all this play off business, yet again UEFA siding with the big boys.
    You never know, i would give us a fighting chance.

    Why have you got Dundalk down to play Sofia when you dont know if they will win their first round match yet? And why do you say " After they beat TNS " for the bohs match.? You seem to know who is going to win in all the games .

    Just a question, with the draw for the third qualifying round made the day after the first leg does it mean that Fingal would be seeded IF they got past Maritimo ? Or Maritimo wouldnt have been seeded in the next round anyway ? It would mean we couldnt look forward to a possible meeting with the likes of Liverpool or Juventus if the winners of our match was seeded.

    What would it do to the co efficient thingy if Fingal go past Maritimo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riddickcule View Post
    Lets hope Bohs get an easy draw after they beat TNS.

    I don't think Dundalk can beat Levski Sofia, and that will be the end of their run.

    Fingal won't get past Maritimo.

    Rovers will get past Ulisses/Bnei Yehuda, and hopefully a lucky draw for them and then they will get knocked out in the play off round.

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    your half right in my opinion.
    bohs , rovers ,dundalk and fingal will all get knocked out in the 1st round.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A N Mouse View Post
    What are you talking about?

    It's not like they added an extra round.

    It's fairer all round. Guaranteed places for actual champions. If anything the chances of a winnable tie for unseeded champions is increased, as the non-champions from the 'big' leagues are arguably better than some of the higher ranked champions.

    And surely a guaranteed tie against a big club, as you put, is a good thing - big club = big payday?
    The group stage will be the pay day not the play offs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by placid casual View Post
    your half right in my opinion.
    bohs , rovers ,dundalk and fingal will all get knocked out in the 1st round.
    That would be a very strange outcome!

    Dundalk would be pi$$ed off to be knockout by Grevenmacher in the first round, but not half as much as Bohs, Rovers and Fingal who all think they are playing for a place in the 3rd Qualifying Rounds

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