Damn Horns

[pineapple stu]

It is based on that precept. You could I suppose argue that hearing a horn somewhere in the ground triggers the impulsion to play it yourself, which triggers the impulse in someone else, which triggers...

Anyway, it took my mind off the horns for a while.

But overall, the point was that you don't have to be playing it anywhere near the whole time for the whole ground to be drowned out. Just five minutes' playing for fun means 2500 or so horns on the go at any one time.

[Ciaran W]

You know the way your man jordan said the only way they will ban vuvuzelas is if they are used as missiles, well i think fifa should pay a few people who have no interest in football to go to a match and throw some at the players, vuvuzelas are banned, the people who threw them get a few bob and we all get to watch the world cup in peace, problem solved

[Dunny]

They wont be banned. FIFA have branded ones for sale.

[seand]

I don't have a big problem with the noise per se, but as people have said its choking the atmosphere. The only real atmosphere has been during the anthems (Advance Australia Fair was particularly hair-raising) but when Argentina, Germany and England fans can't make themselves heard it's a bit odd!

[Ciaran W]

They should just let the first 500 people bring in vuvuzelas so that we can still hear drums, vuvuzelas and singing all at the same time

[the 12 th man]

It's a shame we can't hear the singing & chanting etc,the Mecicans were saying you couldn't hear their Mariachi & Aztec songs they were trying to belt out.

It's just a matter of there being too many horns not the horns themselves.

[thejollyrodger]

cant belive they cant adjust the mic's or something

[the 12 th man]

The Dutch normally have bands playing at their games and the crowd are very entertaining,pity.

[Ciaran W]

I just read on wikipedia there that they've made a new vuvuzela which is 20db lower then the one there using at the moment

[Dunny]

http://www.rte.ie/sport/worldcup/201.../vuvuzela.html

[thischarmingman]

I absolutely no problem with the din, you get used to it very quickly. I have a big problem with the near total negation of the fan's input.

There is little noticable change in sound when there is an attack, a hard tackle or an incident etc. and it makes the whole occassion seem quite dull. I always enjoy the singing of competing sets of fans when watching on television and the vuvuzelas all but remove this facet. If we had qualified and I'd been there, I would have been extremely p!ssed off being unable to make any audible noise.

Also, having been unaware of this aspect of the South African game, I had been looking forward to a World Cup with unique dancing, singing and rhythms that you commonly get in the Cup of Nations. While the drone is also unique and maybe should be appreciated as such, I think it is hugely detrimental to the World Cup experience.

I agree entirely, you said precisely what I wanted to say. There's no really discernable change in the crowd regardless of what's happening in the game which takes away from the occasion somewhat I think. It's got to the stage where you're sometimes surprised by the intensity of the players' celebrations after a goal because you've been lulled into a state whereby the game has lost some of it's intensity.

[DaveyCakes]

I have no problem with the vuvuzuelas. I have a problem with the football being awful..

[elroy]

I have no problem with the vuvuzuelas. I have a problem with the football being awful..

Poor so far isnt it! Had the day off today, thought the Holland/Denmark would at least be of high quality, but turned out to be very poor. Then even worse was the Cameroon Japan game. The aerial shot that showed the 20 outfield players bunched up like sheep summed up the game, awful. Perhaps its an over cautious approach to the first game that will pass once we get past the group openers. But the fare has been very poor so far.

[culloty82]

Coming to a sportsground near you soon: "Get your flags, scarves and vuvuzelas!"

http://www.buy-vuvuzela.com/

[Razors left peg]

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/...0554134&ref=mf

[thischarmingman]

Paraguay 1 up.

[elroy]

Fcuking vuvuuzelas or whatever you call them were particularly annoying tonight

[tetsujin1979]

How to eliminate the drone of vuvuzela's (if you have a top of the range equaliser for your tv) http://www.fastcompany.com/1660044/w...vuvuzela-drone

[Ciaran W]

Apparently sainsbury's over in england are selling 1 vuvuzela every second and the premier league just said they wouldn't stop people from bringing the vuvuzelas to the matches so we could be hearing alot more of them !

[pineapple stu]

Have you a link for either of those comments or are you just making stuff up?

Edit - Sainsbury's sold one every other second in the 12-hour lead up to the England game; 22000 in all.

A search for vuvuzela on the Premier league website throws up no results at all.