"How to fix the league" threads

**peadar1987** · 25/05/2010, 11:30 AM

There's a lot of abuse thrown at anyone who starts one, but to be fair, our league is pretty much unique.

Not only is there a pretty obvious need to fix the league, somehow, which doesn't exist in most other leagues, but the small fanbase really changes the dynamic of supporters in the league.

I'm a Stoke City fan, and on any of the English football boards I use, fans of different clubs fragment into their own groups. Stoke fans talk with other Stoke fans about players, tactics, and potential signings, the same with Hull, Burnley and Stockport fans. There's never a well-frequented central area where fans of different clubs come to discuss matters of common interest to the league.

This league couldn't sustain a message board like that. Bray don't have enough fans to have a board of our own where we just talk in-house stuff, and it's not like we have enough money to even dream of making signings for us to talk about. A lot of clubs are in the same boat. The size and issues of the domestic football community here mean that there's always going to be the demand for cross-club discussion between the fans, and a big part of that is how to improve the league as a whole.

**osarusan** · 25/05/2010, 11:51 AM

But they're unrelated issues.

First of all, if Limerick can set up a forum for their fans, I'm sure Bray can do likewise. I'd say most if not all other premier division teams have one. Secondly, even if they don't, there is a forum for each club on this site where club-specific issues can be discussed.

People getting shot down for starting 'improving the league' threads has nothing to do with small fanbases and lack of other forums, they're getting shot down because the kind of 'solutions' proposed show they pretty much uniformly fail to understand what needs to be done, what can feasibly be done, and by whom, in order to improve the league.

**Sam_Heggy** · 25/05/2010, 1:17 PM

No problem with the "let's fix the league threads" but every day a new one? That's just annoying, especially when it's the same talk every time.

As for individual forums, there is individual sections on here and ourselves, Athlone and Drogheda can be found over on www.irishfootienetwork.com

Our league is not unique either, it is a mess but not unique. Over-spending is a huge problem here but it's also very evident in England, the IL is a jokeshop too.

**pineapple stu** · 25/05/2010, 1:18 PM

They're also getting shot down because it tends to be the same person again and again who was previously banned for the same reason.

Other than that, I'm not sure entirely what point you're trying to make?

**marinobohs** · 25/05/2010, 1:28 PM

Originally Posted by peadar1987

There's a lot of abuse thrown at anyone who starts one, but to be fair, our league is pretty much unique.

Not only is there a pretty obvious need to fix the league, somehow, which doesn't exist in most other leagues, but the small fanbase really changes the dynamic of supporters in the league.

I'm a Stoke City fan, and on any of the English football boards I use, fans of different clubs fragment into their own groups. Stoke fans talk with other Stoke fans about players, tactics, and potential signings, the same with Hull, Burnley and Stockport fans. There's never a well-frequented central area where fans of different clubs come to discuss matters of common interest to the league.

This league couldn't sustain a message board like that. Bray don't have enough fans to have a board of our own where we just talk in-house stuff, and it's not like we have enough money to even dream of making signings for us to talk about. A lot of clubs are in the same boat. The size and issues of the domestic football community here mean that there's always going to be the demand for cross-club discussion between the fans, and a big part of that is how to improve the league as a whole.

Firstly, most clubs have their own dedicated forums and indeed FOOT.IE has individual forums for each club. I post on the Bohs forum about Bohs specific items but would tend to see this forum as broader in terms of participants etc.

Also great to converse with fans from other clubs on a somewhat neutral territory.
RE "improving the league" threads - there have been literally hundreds of these threads on FOOT.IE and they tend to become very repetitive for regular readers and I suspect this accounts for at least some of the "shooting down" you refer to. There are a lot of posters here very involved with their respective clubs and they also may ridicule some of the ideas put forward as they are aware of how illogical and impractical they are.

**Dodge** · 25/05/2010, 2:54 PM

Originally Posted by peadar1987

This league couldn't sustain a message board like that.

The league doesn't. A bunch of people do.

Its a discussion forum, no more, no, less.

I've no problem with ayone discussing anything they like, but they must be prepared to accept criticism of their posts.

As for bray not having enough fans to discuss possible signings, amy I direct you to 11 page thread started by you about signings in the Bray forum

**Riddickcule** · 25/05/2010, 6:05 PM

Lets have one thread about "How to fix the league" then. Then, so many wouldn't have to be started.

**Dodge** · 25/05/2010, 7:08 PM

Originally Posted by Riddickcule

Lets have one thread about "How to fix the league" then. Then, so many wouldn't have to be started.

The ironing is delicious

**Riddickcule** · 25/05/2010, 7:21 PM

Been watching too much Simpsons my friend.

**Sam_Heggy** · 25/05/2010, 9:42 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

As for bray not having enough fans to discuss possible signings, amy I direct you to 11 page thread started by you about signings in the Bray forum

Now, name calling is not on, no matter how stupid these threads are. As far as I know, Dumbass is the only sort of name that can be thrown at people on here.

Originally Posted by Riddickcule

Been watching too much Simpsons my friend.

Blasphemy, you can NEVER watch too much Simpsons or for that matter, Blackadder, Red Dwarf (gotta love Dave Lyster) and other humorous tv series.

**SkStu** · 25/05/2010, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy

Now, name calling is not on, no matter how stupid these threads are. As far as I know, Dumbass is the only sort of name that can be thrown at people on here.

i believe retard is acceptable here too.

**bullit** · 26/05/2010, 1:39 AM

only if you are one

**ped_ped** · 26/05/2010, 3:51 PM

How about a 'How to fix the league' forum. It would easily be filled and could save this forum for discussing the league we actually have!!!

**cob655** · 26/05/2010, 3:52 PM

I wrote this out in reply to the "league" thread and then realised it was locked,lol.so ill just post it here..

First off keep summer footie,then go to an AIL,try to work with/closer around the gaa fixtures and pray to god it works!

Lately i seem to be missing alot of dundalk home games due to playing gaa on a fri nite.instead of competing why cant these two bodys work around each other,ie no gaa match's(in dundalk/louth) on the nite dundalk play there home games and the fai(ddl and so on) will do the same with the soccer when louth are playing.

Could this not work through out the country??

**pineapple stu** · 26/05/2010, 3:53 PM

Add another two sub-forums. Next.

**KevB76** · 26/05/2010, 4:55 PM

Originally Posted by cob655

I wrote this out in reply to the "league" thread and then realised it was locked,lol.so ill just post it here..

First off keep summer footie,then go to an AIL,try to work with/closer around the gaa fixtures and pray to god it works!

Could this not work through out the country??

We already have one, its called the first division

**Riddickcule** · 26/05/2010, 9:37 PM

Don't mind them cob^^^, but tbh gaa and football could never work together, wouldn't want them to either.

We need to look abroad for examples, not domestically. The structures we have in place with the ruggers and gaah just wouldn't work in footy.

**cob655** · 26/05/2010, 10:09 PM

As every one knows the main problem isnt the EPL across the sea,its the fact that we are competing with the gaa.
Most people will watch the EPL bacause its good footie,but Id never miss a Dundalk game for it.
I think most LOI fans would watch the EPL and the likes every week,so thats way down the list in "things to fix".

Alot of my gaa team go to dundalk games most weeks and im sure its the same through out dundalk,so if you have 10 games on a friday nite when dlk are playing,thats 20 teams(you could have alot more..) and the supporters also at them gaa games and players who also take kids..

Thats just one small thing that needs to be sorted.

Maybe we should just accept the league may well never get bigger attendances......I for one cant see anything being done to improve them..

**Riddickcule** · 26/05/2010, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by cob655

As every one knows the main problem isnt the EPL across the sea,its the fact that we are competing with the gaa.

Nah can't agree with you there, we're not competing with gaa as its a completly different game. imo.

And technically we're not competing with the EPL either, really we're competing with Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal and Celtic.

**marinobohs** · 27/05/2010, 3:41 PM

Originally Posted by cob655

I wrote this out in reply to the "league" thread and then realised it was locked,lol.so ill just post it here..

First off keep summer footie,then go to an AIL,try to work with/closer around the gaa fixtures and pray to god it works!

Lately i seem to be missing alot of dundalk home games due to playing gaa on a fri nite.instead of competing why cant these two bodys work around each other,ie no gaa match's(in dundalk/louth) on the nite dundalk play there home games and the fai(ddl and so on) will do the same with the soccer when louth are playing.

Could this not work through out the country??

Simple solution - Friday/Sat/Sunday desiganated football. Never - designated bogball

Really what we are "competing" with is barstools and a lazy public that has no real interest in sport. If man ure / liverpool / celtic were playing here every week the gates would plummet after a month or two. Take away the novelty factor and there are very few "sports " fans in this country (see also - bogball national League V bogball championship)