QuoteWhat was the name of the fai's agent? was in one of the articles.
And more to point which current or former fai staff are lining their own pockets from it?
I heard they filled it in with red pen and it was rejectedOriginally Posted by Dodge
What was the name of the fai's agent? was in one of the articles.
And more to point which current or former fai staff are lining their own pockets from it?
Good point. Gavin should have been asked why this third party whose existence was admitted by Delaney yesterday is willing to not take any money right out of the game. How very benevolent of this professional agency to forego any fee when working with the FAI.
This whole debate can be boiled down to the FAI saying to the clubs "you signed a document that said we could bend you over and......" anyway, you get the picture.
And until the clubs collectively get well enough organised themselves to organise the proverbial in a brewery, then they are just going to have to bend over and take it. And this, for the short-sighted of you, is EXACTLY where Sadlier's point about small minded petty self-interest comes into play. At times like this, when there is a clear need for the clubs collectively to stand up and push back in a unified manner at the FAI, they can't, because someone, or more likely, a few, will be bought off easier than a child in a sweetshop.
Domestic football is a toy that the FAI keeps at the bottom of the toybox, that they stumble across every once in a while, take it out, mess around with it, then leave it outside getting dirty and wet in the mud. International football is the favourite teddy that they can't be separated from.
Until clubs collectively own the issue making domestic football better themselves, and not only furthering the interests of their own club (see Hairy Bowsie's post for a prime example of the self-interest that has crippled Irish football), then we may as well all bend over when JD comes calling.
We can all only speculate as to what this could mean.
That appears to be exactly the way of it, sadly.
Well said. Of course, the FAI don't even have to employ divide-and-rule tactics to govern as they see fit when the clubs are happy enough to do it themselves and shoot themselves in the foot. It's very disillusioning.This whole debate can be boiled down to the FAI saying to the clubs "you signed a document that said we could bend you over and......" anyway, you get the picture.
And until the clubs collectively get well enough organised themselves to organise the proverbial in a brewery, then they are just going to have to bend over and take it. And this, for the short-sighted of you, is EXACTLY where Sadlier's point about small minded petty self-interest comes into play. At times like this, when there is a clear need for the clubs collectively to stand up and push back in a unified manner at the FAI, they can't, because someone, or more likely, a few, will be bought off easier than a child in a sweetshop.
Domestic football is a toy that the FAI keeps at the bottom of the toybox, that they stumble across every once in a while, take it out, mess around with it, then leave it outside getting dirty and wet in the mud. International football is the favourite teddy that they can't be separated from.
Until clubs collectively own the issue making domestic football better themselves, and not only furthering the interests of their own club (see Hairy Bowsie's post for a prime example of the self-interest that has crippled Irish football), then we may as well all bend over when JD comes calling.
I would sincerely hope that petty personal squabbles wouldn't colour the FAI's future professional/official business, conduct or interaction with Limerick in any substantial way. Small-mindedness seems ingrained in Irish football at all levels, however. You could hear Delaney at it already in the radio interview with Finnucane yesterday. You'd think he was a kid bickering with a class-mate who tripped him up and made him look silly during a playground football game the way he was bitching, for want of a better word, about Limerick's "naivety" and "bringing the game into disrepute a bit".We can all only speculate as to what this could mean.
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Yeah and no mention of all the money they waste with Trap and all that rubbish...........
If John and Fran are still the men at the helm (and shur why wouldn't they be??), then despite Limerick FC being "the best run club in the country"* they will have no hope of getting a licence when next seasons batch are given out. Just you watch.
*There's a free quote for ye from a high ranking FAI official not more than three weeks ago.
Sure Gavin pretty much made the threat on MNS tonight, something along the lines of we look forward to working with Limerick into the future, hopefully this Limerick....
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Limerick should try again and limit the amount of tickets to 19,999. What a complete farce. Selling out the rights of a club to organise who they play against in non competitive fixtures. Absolutely despicable
15000 is the latest figure mentioned.
15000 v Barcelona = Not worth your while I'd imagine.
FAI has clearly sold out every club in the country without informing them. Hence all the fannying that has gone on.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/0517/limerick.html
It's not going away.............
Last edited by Lim till i die; 17/05/2010 at 9:23 PM.
Even if Limerick don't get the game in the end i'm glad Limerick and the press too to a certain extent have stood up to the FAI on certain points they have made. A lot of people in the past would have been too afraid to step on their toes and have just took what the FAI have said as gospel. It shows how much BS the FAI have been spurting out when they continue to release further statements adding bits and pieces at a time. The way its going they are going to get caught up in there own lies sooner or later. Hopefully the FAI can be forced to show these exact agreements with the third party to the clubs, because from what i can tell, none of the clubs know what are in these agreements. Maybe no one has come out in the press from the boards of other clubs to support Limerick FC (understandably), but i haven't heard anyone come out and say they have known about these third party agreements all the time either.
P.S. We are screwed next season.
Last edited by Jofspring; 17/05/2010 at 9:44 PM.
Do you really want to get up JDs nose?
How about this chant, " Danny Drew for CEO, Delaney out"
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Fair play to ye and good luck with it. I desperately hope ye are correct in everything ye are saying and dont give Delaney a chance to rub yer faces in it.
3) Limerick FC are portraying as a certainty that with FAI permission the game would come to Limerick. We are aware that even with FAI permission (which in any case, we are unable to grant), FC Barcelona has not made any decision to come to Limerick. We have spoken to high level officials at the club who have confirmed this and we are also know that international match agents are offering FC Barcelona to other clubs in other countries on the same date, July 31.
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaa
Last edited by gael353; 17/05/2010 at 11:19 PM.
Was there a hint of bitterness or imminent revenge in that? That's disgraceful and highly unprofessional.
Yeah, on that actually; was the original figure mentioned not 20,000 in the interview with Finnucane or did I imagine that? You'd expect Delaney to have his homework done before an interview on national radio...
And that was only yesterday too. Before that, nobody seemed to have any notion what the details of these third-party agreements were, if they even knew they existed in the first place; clubs included.
Was well worth a response. The FAI's statement is riddled with inconsistencies - outright contradictions even - and irrelevancies. Worse, it goes nowhere near excusing them for the farce that was the Bohs' change-of-date request either.
When I think of it, the FAI's third point is a bit stupid alright. How could Barcelona have contractually agreed to play the game if the FAI had yet to sanction it? That's kind of self-evident. Clearly, Barcelona had indicated in some form or another that they would provisionally save the date for Limerick and would sign a contract legally binding them to fulfilling the fixture if it was put in front of them, but of course, they couldn't 100 per cent agree to a game that the FAI had yet to sanction.
I'm not so sure the clubs will ever be allowed to see these agreements. The FAI seem desperately keen to keep the identity of this third-party under wraps. I suppose the third-party wouldn't be too pleased with the FAI if they were to suffer PR damage subsequent to being "outed" as directly involved in this mess, but they must have been mad to have gotten into agreements with the FAI in the first place.
with Limerick apparently going down the legal route, I'd imagine that the FAI will have no choice but to reveal not just the agency, but the contract itself.I'm not so sure the clubs will ever be allowed to see these agreements. The FAI seem desperately keen to keep the identity of this third-party under wraps. I suppose the third-party wouldn't be too pleased with the FAI if they were to suffer PR damage subsequent to being "outed" as directly involved in this mess, but they must have been mad to have gotten into agreements with the FAI in the first place.
Quelle Suprise.
Nothing new out of Fran.
Hard to have homework done when you're clearly making it up as you go along......Yeah, on that actually; was the original figure mentioned not 20,000 in the interview with Finnucane or did I imagine that? You'd expect Delaney to have his homework done before an interview on national radio...
Did he really say that? I'm glad I missed it or I still wouldn't have calmed down by now. If he did, it would be impossible for him to deny Limerick a license next year with that you-tube clip available. Glad Con asked his question...all through Gavin's blurb you couldn't help but think Gavin was lying. As for Richardson, what a ****. Was surprised to hear his nonsense but I guess as pointed out already, he's on the payroll now.
It would be great to see some sort of unified stance from the clubs, even a public letter from the other 21 saying that they are concerned at the FAI's stance and/or the friendly limitations entered into on their behalf by the FAI might send a message.
I'm no lawyer but can't help think there are legal questions wrt the 3rd party agreement. The PA is a contract and all clubs are signed up to it, however its the law of the land that no party can be held to a contract that they are not privy to. Contracts have also been thrown out in the courts due to onerous conditions on one party, normally placed by the stonger party in the agreement onto the lesser party, even though the lesser party knowingly signed up to the contract.
There's got to be some competition issues here also. What I am understanding now is that in a free market, only a certain agent can setup football matches at Thomond Park....I'm sure Thomond Park find that very interesting. Even more interesting for them is that its clear this agent will now most likely only deal with Lansdowne Road.
If nothing else, this incident might force these clowns to pay more attention to the league....who am I kidding.
Well done Limerick for taking the stance....its the only way to effect any change with these guys.
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