Millwall In Final

[A face]

Do Millwall still have scummy fans ??

[Plastic Paddy]

It seems that the Celtic supporters on this board like nothing more than to have a cheap dig at English clubs for whatever reason.

And people called Declan like nothing more than to make sweeping generalisations about Celtic fans for whatever reason...

Maybe a football match wasn't the best place to hold a minute silence but it was still deemed disrespectful to someone who had just passed away.

Like I said, it wasn't about respect or otherwise. It was about relevance. More specifically, the lack of it.

Incidendentally, I don't think a football stadium is any place to vent political/nationalistic views.

What you and I think is bye the bye. Sport and politics have been interrelated since way before we graced this earth; in fact, it would seem to be exceptional when this isn't the case. FWIW, I don't agree with some of the more extreme views I hear at CP. But I'll squarely guarantee you that you won't agree with the more extreme views you'll hear in the stands or terraces at your club. C'est la vie.

PP

[lopez]

...You can bet your last euro that these boys will leave their mark on Europe next year!

More like European police forces will leave their mark on them...love to see them up against the Carabinieri...and a few Euro firms too. Don't care what anyone says, when you're 45 you're over the hill for any arm to arm combat. No army takes on 45 year olds unless their in scheissestrasse...bit like Hitler in his last days in Berlin.

[Declan_Michael]

And people called Declan like nothing more than to make sweeping generalisations about Celtic fans for whatever reason...



Like I said, it wasn't about respect or otherwise. It was about relevance. More specifically, the lack of it.



What you and I think is bye the bye. Sport and politics have been interrelated since way before we graced this earth; in fact, it would seem to be exceptional when this isn't the case. FWIW, I don't agree with some of the more extreme views I hear at CP. But I'll squarely guarantee you that you won't agree with the more extreme views you'll hear in the stands or terraces at your club. C'est la vie.

PP

The Celtic supporters I have known have been Glaswegians and enjoy the game of football. Sound people. I appreciate that not all Celtic supporters sing rebel songs but there enough of them for threads on the issue to present on this site on a regular basis. Seems simple that you support a team and attend games because you enjoy the sport. If their is burning political issue you wish to discuss either talk to your mates down the pub or write to the indo.

[Declan_Michael]

Sorry,but the Mancs.& Scousers still engage in mutual loathing...read their fanzines,listen to their songs...respect to to the Munichs re.Hillsboro'..as I said before they revel in this image & is all part of their arrogant siege mentality...

As for Liz Bowes-Lyon...my adopted family are v.distantly related...what relevance has she got to football,Celtic,Irish/Scots nationalism?She was another aristocratic parasite.....Good riddance....

Mutual loathing maybe but the line is drawn at Hillsborough/Munich. The banter between scousers/mancs is no different to spurs/arsenal, villa/Birmingham etc etc

[eoinh]

Do Millwall still have scummy fans ??

For their matchs against west ham the time of the matchs had to be moved to miday and huge amounts of police had to be deployed.

As for Man utd - they were fined by UEFA last season for their fans storming a turnstile in madrid. funnily enough it got virtually no coverage in the british press


Liverpool themselves havent much respect for the dead of Heysel. Despite what went on, the official liverpool site and many of the other liverpool sites claim that many of the Juventus fans who were charged were "armed". thats pure rubbish.

[Declan_Michael]

So,you're obviously Oblivious to the huge no.of CSC's on the island of Ireland,then.....?!For more details,consult 'The Wee Green Book',c/o.Parkhead!

Erm, well I'm not really surprized that a Glaswegian would choose to support a Glaswegian club. Bit different with Irish supporters chosing to follow a British team - tricolour and all. I've seen the Celtic store in Dublin fits in well alongside Tesco, Topman and Debenhams.

Unfortnatly, at times the Old Firm mirrors the problems in Northern Ireland. Religion gets drawn into the Old Firm, however subconciosly. You wear a Celtic jersey you are declaring that you are a catholic. With Rangers, a Protestant. Then, the battle lines are drawn. Suddenly we're talking about religion. Once you've made your team choice/religion - Politics gets drawn in (United Ireland/Nationalism/Black & Tans to the No Surrender/GSTQ). Now were talking about Politics and not football. Speaking from a Celtic perspective its hardly a great advert for the Irish abroad singing rebel songs old and new. As I've said I appreciate not all supporters (of either club) follow this line but its all a bit much IMO. Do they wave tricolours so fiercely at London Irish or the Boston Celtics?
When the FAI threatned to use CP for International matters I trawled a few Old Firm message boards. Seemed that the Scottish 'bhoys' didn't care much for the ROI (why should they?) and security issues were also raised. Ironically, I could not forsee such a problem at Anfield/Old Trafford.

[sylvo]

More like European police forces will leave their mark on them...love to see them up against the Carabinieri...and a few Euro firms too. Don't care what anyone says, when you're 45 you're over the hill for any arm to arm combat. No army takes on 45 year olds unless their in scheissestrasse...bit like Hitler in his last days in Berlin.

To right, i'd love to see them give it the ''no one like's us we don't care'' to the carabinieri, seen them in action a few time's on trip's to serie a game's they'd give yer average middle aged, arm's plastered in bulldog drawing's d**khead more then just a bloody nose. Millwall are a disaster when it come's to a lot of their fan's. A lot of their game's last season they even had to ban away fan's from going to the den, only lifting the ban when they seen how much cash they were losing, and can only see problem's with them in europe, in the aftermouth after no doubt the fan's of the self appionted football master race will do their usual job of trashing the city's of Portugal for their two week's in the summer, plus getting a load of them trashed by some baton's from the local Portugies fuzz.

[eoinh]

Because the manager of Millwall doesnt have a coaching badge they actaully fail the UEfa License requirements.

[Plastic Paddy]

Because the manager of Millwall doesnt have a coaching badge they actaully fail the UEfa License requirements.

It doesn't automatically mean that they will forfeit their European spot though. This only actually comes into play if Millwall are promoted to the Premiership. The Football Association retain the ability to exempt clubs outside the top flight who qualify for Europe (i.e. the UEFA Cup) if they don't make the licence grade. As Dennis Wise doesn't possess either a UEFA 'A' or 'B' grade coaching licence (and the FA, as UEFA's regulatory agency for English football, cannot issue him with a "certificate of coaching competence" as he hasn't been in post for five years), it's him that could potentially cause this problem.

PP

[Declan_Michael]

So now you think anywhere with an Irish flag,is a 'de facto' part of Britain...?!You're clearly more ignorant of your history than I thought....

I think you miss my point. But history is exactly what it is. We are talking about a Irish Priest that set up a football club, not yesterday but over 100 years ago. The have been playing in a Scottish League, representing Britain when in Europe. Yes, they have links to Ireland in their history lets draw the line there.

[Plastic Paddy]

The have been playing in a Scottish League, representing Britain when in Europe. Yes, they have links to Ireland in their history lets draw the line there.

They represent Scotland and not Britain when playing in Europe. This independence is something the "home" nations have fought long and so far successfully to maintain.

PP - Pedant Paddy

(Bloody hell, didn't we do well, by the way? This thread started out as "Millwall in final". All roads lead to Glasgow and not Rome it would seem. )

[lopez]

So,you're obviously Oblivious to the huge no.of CSC's on the island of Ireland,then.....?!For more details,consult 'The Wee Green Book',c/o.Parkhead!

Not as many as Man Ure so what's the point here. BTW, I too find your use of Munichs offesnsive, and I'm not fan of the club. It may interest you that one of our best players was killed in that tragedy, so excuse me if I don't share a chuckle with you...not that Liam Whelan is known up at 'Parkheed', 'Salick Park' or any other names from the ridiculous, aye, patois you've seemed to have acquired.

To right, i'd love to see them give it the ''no one like's us we don't care'' to the carabinieri, seen them in action a few time's on trip's to serie a game's they'd give yer average middle aged, arm's plastered in bulldog drawing's d**khead more then just a bloody nose. Millwall are a disaster when it come's to a lot of their fan's. A lot of their game's last season they even had to ban away fan's from going to the den, only lifting the ban when they seen how much cash they were losing...

My favourite Millwall fan is none other than Maxwell 'Max' Bygraves. Let me tell you a stoooooorryyy! One of his less well known numbers that we didn't have to suffer on 'Live From The Paladium' in the seventies, is The Milwall Song that he penned for his beloved Loy-ans. It makes you pine for Chas'n'Dave, even though Maxwell - along with those two stoopid brothers, who stopped talking to each other because one of them's St Bernard - by the name of Schnorbitz (WTFDTM?) - shat over the other's carpet -would be more suited to White Hart Lane (or Highbury)...if you know what I mean.

[Declan_Michael]

They represent Scotland and not Britain when playing in Europe. This independence is something the "home" nations have fought long and so far successfully to maintain.

PP - Pedant Paddy

(Bloody hell, didn't we do well, by the way? This thread started out as "Millwall in final". All roads lead to Glasgow and not Rome it would seem. )

So now Celtic offer an outlet for Scottish independence. Despite devolution they are still under the jurisiction of England/Whitehall/Britain call it what yoo will. Scots carry British passports.

[Plastic Paddy]

So now Celtic offer an outlet for Scottish independence. Despite devolution they are still under the jurisiction of England/Whitehall/Britain call it what yoo will. Scots carry British passports.

Declan, my love, Celtic represent Scotland when they play in Europe. Would you like me to spell out why? Because they play under the auspices of the Scottish Football Association. Obviously you misunderstand my reference to "independence" in the context of the home nations.

Right, let's just cover that again. Celtic play under the Scottish FA. Not the British FA, the UKFA or even the frigging Martian FA. Clear?

Eejit.

PP

[Declan_Michael]

Feck, I thought they were Irish?