Newscorp will run and run with that story, they will get as much mileage out of it as they possibly can
"Your guilty conscience may move you to vote Democratic, but deep down you long for a cold-hearted Republican to lower taxes, brutalize criminals, and rule you like a king"
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Indeed they will endabob. Lib Dem lass on politics show last night was saying one thing you won't hear GB say in debate tonight is "I spoke to a lady in Rochdale yesterday....". I think he should. Dunno who's sheduled to speak first but he should bring it up at the first opportunity afforded him rather than spend time trying to deflect hits on it from the tories and lib dems.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
Inclined to agree, but the Labour? locals in Rochdale seemed equally sure he shouldn't....
Seemingly Nick Griffin was on RTE the other day, saying that Ireland was part of Britain and that we're more than welcome in his Aryan nation (the old Groucho Marx joke about clubs springs to mind)! Otherwise, looks like Dave Nice-But-Dim is still rising in the polls, so we could be talking about a Tory majority this time next week.
Sounds like imperialistic BS from Nazi Nick there....
Naw he did say it.
As someone said to me "Aye, when the Irish people hear that they'll be raging. But only after they finish reading the Guardian, watching Eastenders and cheering on Liverpool."
Know the pr*ck said it, but somehow think the average unionist would disagree with you....
Heh, touche. Although I wouldn't bracket the Graun with those others- I think it only sells about 15,000 copies daily in Ireland.Originally Posted by MariborKev
I think I can say confidently that the average/ typical unionist neither
a) supports the BNP, nor
b) thinks the Republic of Ireland is or should become part of the British state.
Last edited by dahamsta; 01/05/2010 at 10:19 AM. Reason: Personal abuse remove.
Ha ha.
But the average unionist would & does agree with their stance on the Six Counties with those same bigots in the BNP, Tories et al....
PS. There is no country called the 'Republic of Ireland', nor will there ever be. Maybe purchase of an atlas is in order?
Last edited by ArdeeBhoy; 01/05/2010 at 11:54 PM. Reason: The Geographically challenged....
ArdeeBhoy, that kind of pedantry is why discussion of the SPL is restricted to one thread on Foot.ie, and why threads on Ireland/Northern Ireland invariably sink into flame wars. Drop it. Now.
Nate Silver, who was 98% accurate with his prediction for the electoral college in the US presidential election, has now tweaked his model to analyse the UK vote. Don't know enough maths or programming to know how reliable it is, but he says that the use of proportional, rather than uniform swing should make his projection more accurate than traditional swingometers.
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/...del-works.html
Apologies DH, had no idea confirming the name of a member state of the EU & UN was so, er, inflammatory.
And props to Culloty, Nate Silver is a respected pundit.
I'll be voting Conservative I think. The state has grown to gigantic proportions under Labour and I want more power devolved to lower levels of government or to the individual. Apparently this makes me a "bigot" who might as well join the BNP though?
That's your choice. But be mindful there's still rabid anti-foreigner(inc.Irish (& of course non-whites) people !) forces at work in there. Just read some of the Tory blogs online. Or the other usual suspects.
Sounds like LD's are more apt, unless taking a very Libertarian stance?
Still if anyone wants to vote for Old Etonians who are detached from reality and voting for austerity measures which won't affect them, fine by me.
Enjoy their 'New Reality'.
Won't the COnservatives try to take power away from the Scottish parliament and Welsh regional assembly?
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The Conservative party are a broad church - I'm sure there is still an element of small minded xenophobia within the parties ranks, although I believe that very much exists in Labour's grassroots as well. I am coming from a more libertarian perspective, the LDs are far too EUrophile for my liking and I think it's naive of them to claim they can change the institution from within.
I don't base my vote on what school the leader went to - Clegg comes from a similar background, as did Tony Blair. As far as austerity goes, all parties will have to make cuts because Britain has a huge defecit.
If I was living in the UK, I think I'd have to vote for Labour. I'd be unlikely to vote for the Tories anyway, but as someone has already pointed out earlier in the thread, the Tories under Cameron would be far worse than the likes of Thatcher, because at least you knew what you were getting under Thatcher. And the New Liberals under Clegg are so reminiscent of New Labour under Blair it's scary. Gordon Brown is a rock of reliability and intelligence compared to these guys. Of course if they had PR-STV people wouldn't have to base their decisions around one person...
Not that I'm aware Dodge although the coverage of Welsh and Scottish politics in England is very small to the point where only political anoraks know anything about them. I was under the impression that they supported giving more powers to the Scottish parliament. Certainly if you took more away from the Welsh assembly it'd be pointless even having it. The parties all have have different manifestos: a "British" one for England and seperate ones for Scotland and Wales. I know the Tories are still very unionist. I personally think the Union (between Scotland and England) is dead. I'd rather see two independent nations and stop this whole "British" charade.
If you believe that, you may need to broaden your horizons ! 80-90% of them, beneath the surface, fufill the worst type of 'little Englander' stereotype of intolerance, for which one would be ridiculed if you were to apply it to even the smallest degree in an Irish context.
Their cuts are aimed at slashing public services regardless, especially affecting Education & the Health Service.
And the Tories economic record, using anyone other than Ken Clarke, is as about as useful as a chocolate teapot......
DH is right in a way in that Brown is the intellectually most competent, though Clegg has more appeal in terms of charisma. But PR & the ending of Trident were never policies advocated by Blair in a General Election scenario.
The Tories have ringfenced NHS spending in England so it's clearly not a case of ruthlesly slashing public services for the sake of it. Even in Thatcher's time public spending rose under the Conservatives. You're obviously coming from a left wing perspective so we're not going to agree about public spending because, economically at least, I'm on the right.
Is your pecentage on the number of bigoted Tories scientific or just based on cliche and prejudice?Whatever anybody says it's quite clear that the party has modernised in that regard, they have numerous gay and ethnic minority members. There are numerous things about the Party that I don't like and numerous policies I don't support but I don't accept the argument that theyre all just a bunch of closet racists.
As far as Labour is concerned, five more years of them is almost unthinkable. Detention without charge, I.D cards, DNA databases, bureaucracy, regulation and tax. No thanks.
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