Questions about fomer LOI clubs

**pineapple stu** · 31/03/2010, 12:39 PM

Drumcondra went bust and are back in the LSL now; they were in the FAI Cup in 2004 (lost 5-0 to UCD).

Ditto St James' Gate, I think, apart from the FAI Cup bit.

**Schumi** · 31/03/2010, 12:52 PM

Drumcondra and James' Gate are both midtable in the third tier of the LSL.

**bad mongo** · 31/03/2010, 1:08 PM

Originally Posted by Schumi

Drumcondra and James' Gate are both midtable in the third tier of the LSL.

Don't Forget Transport

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_F.C.

still in the LSL AFAIK

**Dodge** · 31/03/2010, 1:10 PM

St James gate were also shafted by moneymen in their second stint in the league. They used to geta handful of people watching them in the Iveagh Grounds but new board (who I think were connected to a company called Premier Computers or something like that) wanted to turn them into a "powerhouse". Decided they'd play out of Tolka Park, and pumped a decent bit into the team. Left them with a mountain of debt after less than a year. Dominic Foley played for them around this time. (Have fond memories of Ricky O'DFlaherty scoring his first goal for Pats againt the Gate iun Tolka in August (ish) 95.

**PartySaint** · 31/03/2010, 1:13 PM

Does anyone remember Cork City or the old Derry City?? Them were the days

**Dalymountrower** · 31/03/2010, 1:42 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Drumcondra went bust and are back in the LSL now; they were in the FAI Cup in 2004 (lost 5-0 to UCD).

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Drumcondra "merged" with Home Farm in 1972/73 to become Home Farm/Drumcondra, the following season they became Home Farm and then theoretically remained in existence through Home Farm/Everton and Dublin City, before going out of existence with that club

The club now styling itself as Drumcondra has neither seed or breed connection with the original club.

**Mr A** · 31/03/2010, 1:50 PM

Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

Drumcondra "merged" with Home Farm in 1972/73 to become Home Farm/Drumcondra, the following season they became Home Farm and then theoretically remained in existence through Home Farm/Everton and Dublin City, before going out of existence with that club

The club now styling itself as Drumcondra has neither seed or breed connection with the original club.

I thought Home Farm/Everton were technically a different club to Home Farm though? Didn't they even meet in the cup once? So you could say that Drumcondra still exist through the current guise of Home Farm.

If you really wanted to.

**Dodge** · 31/03/2010, 2:04 PM

The LOI Home Farm were initially an extension of the schoolboy set up (keeping same kits, badges etc). To provide an avenue for their multiple schoolboy "graduates" they also operated several intermediate and junior sides in the Leinster Senior League. The merger with Drumcondra pushed the LOI side away from schoolboy set up but it was still the one club until the mid 90s when all they shared was the name. They were known as Home farm Everton purely for Sponsorship reasons and no official club link was ever established. They also became known as Home farm Fingal for at least one season. After they folded, Dublin City was formed from their embers but were a completely new club, renting Whitehall from the original Home Farm 9before moving on to Richmond and Dalymount)

The Home Farm adult sides still exist in the LSL

**the 12 th man** · 31/03/2010, 2:20 PM

[QUOTE=Dillonman;1341126]What happened to James Gate QUOTE]

Between 1991 & 1993 when they were in the League Of Ireland they had crowds of between 50-200 ,they're still around playing in the LSL or the AUL and still play their games in Iveagh Groiunds.

**pineapple stu** · 31/03/2010, 2:47 PM

Originally Posted by Mr A

I thought Home Farm/Everton were technically a different club to Home Farm though? Didn't they even meet in the cup once?

They did, yeah, sometime in the late 90s I think? Game was played in Tolka as I recall. Have a vague notion the league side won 2-0 or 3-2, but could be completely making that up.

**Schumi** · 31/03/2010, 2:54 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

They did, yeah, sometime in the late 90s I think? Game was played in Tolka as I recall. Have a vague notion the league side won 2-0 or 3-2, but could be completely making that up.

3-1 I'm pretty sure. No idea how I remember that!

**Mr A** · 31/03/2010, 3:07 PM

From Wikipedia:

Between 1995 and 1999 they played as Home Farm Everton before a spilt within the club saw the formation of Home Farm Fingal.

**gspain** · 31/03/2010, 3:50 PM

The original St. James Gate were a big player in the league. They won the double in 21/2 and the league as late as 1940 before going out of football in 1944.

They would have been very well supported too.

Drums were well supported too but crowds dwindled alarmingly in the late 60's and the Prole family decided to stop subsidising them (or couldn't afford to continue). I believe there was some bad blood
subsequently as promises by Home Farm were not kept.

soccerc can give the lowdown on Francis. I saw them quite a bit v Limerick and don't recall any big crowds but higher than 50 in fairness except maybe the last season.

Thurles were well supported at first but again nobody at the Limerick game in 81/2. Cahir, Clonmel or Tipp Town might have been better bets as all have a much stronger football tradition.

Cork Hibs bwere a huge club and a glamour side but left football in 1976 with money in the bank.

Newxastlewest was probably just too small to support senior football.

Cork Celtic had big crowds but by the late 70's had no fans. I was at the Limerick game in their last season and the crowd was approx 50 from memory with my Dad being the only other away fan. Cork united & the Aloberts were also poorly supported. City were the first team to come close to decent crowds in Cork since Hibs and Celtic in their heyday.

**D.24saint** · 31/03/2010, 4:58 PM

I remember hearing that crowds started going down big time when ITV started their The Big Match programme in 68 within a few years LOI attendances dwindled.

**historynut** · 31/03/2010, 9:56 PM

Re St James Gate and big crowds, according to history of Sligo Rovers in the 1930's they played a FAI Cup replay at Iveagh grounds with a crowd of 17000. Believe it may have the one that was on a clip of Pathe news (was that not on here a while back ?). Seems hard to imagine at their ground.
There is, is there not a book that documents the decline of crowds at Irish Football during the 60's & 70's as a result of the introduction of the dreaded box in the corner (or today main wall feature !).

**the 12 th man** · 01/04/2010, 3:41 AM

Originally Posted by historynut

There is, is there not a book that documents the decline of crowds at Irish Football during the 60's & 70's as a result of the introduction of the dreaded box in the corner (or today main wall feature !).

Who Stole Our Game? (The Fall & Fall Of Irish Soccer) by Daire Whelan.

**the 12 th man** · 01/04/2010, 3:51 AM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Ditto St James' Gate, I think, apart from the FAI Cup bit.

They got to the semi final in 1992 when they were beaten 2-0 (after a replay) by Bohemians (Joe Lawless got the first one).

**pineapple stu** · 01/04/2010, 8:56 AM

I meant after their demise specifically.

**GUFCghost** · 01/04/2010, 12:01 PM

Are there many clubs that changed their names?(eg galway rovers to galway united)

**razor** · 01/04/2010, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Tony Soprano

There were two teams from Cork in the LOI for almost 30 years (until the late 70s) - anyone know what the Cork derbies were like ? I'm assuming there was some type of geographic division between the supporters of the two clubs ?

Does the current Cork club draw fans from the "catchment areas" of both of the old teams, or could it be considered to be more the continuation of one of the old teams ?

From what i've been told, Hibs were seen mainly as the northside club and Celtic the southside club. I'd need someone older to clarify this though.

Citys fans are from all over the City and County.