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    Quote Originally Posted by gustavo View Post
    You forgot Keith Foy
    I didn't forget him I'd rather include any of the MF players than him :P
    I could have also added Liam Kearney and few other players that returned to LOI aswell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Hostorically, you couldn't be more wrong
    Not being smart Dodge, but why do you say that? Considering so many people see Everton as the "Catholic" club on Merseyside (historically incorrect as they were founded by methodists) and Liverpool as the "Protestant" club (again methodists) Liverpool seem to have had far more Irish players through the years. Admittedly that is not the case now but in the past Liverpool seem to have been more Irish friendly. Would genuinely love to read why you think differently mate. You too Bluebeard. Please bear in mind I know there are clubs with far less Irish connections, has anyone tried to do Chelsea? I think I got nine inc one N.I. and 2 from way back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkCut View Post
    Not being smart Dodge, but why do you say that? Considering so many people see Everton as the "Catholic" club on Merseyside (historically incorrect as they were founded by methodists) and Liverpool as the "Protestant" club (again methodists) Liverpool seem to have had far more Irish players through the years. Admittedly that is not the case now but in the past Liverpool seem to have been more Irish friendly. Would genuinely love to read why you think differently mate. You too Bluebeard. Please bear in mind I know there are clubs with far less Irish connections, has anyone tried to do Chelsea? I think I got nine inc one N.I. and 2 from way back.
    While both clubs were indeed founded by Methodists the early supporters of both clubs tended to be drawn from different areas of the city. Traditionally more Everton support was from the North of the city where the predominantly catholic Irish immigrants settled, while Liverpool's was more from the South and out onto the Wirral. Traditionally it was felt that the Irish immigrants tended towards the Blue side. I was even told once that the colour of Everton's shirts is not "Royal Blue" but is in fact "Virgin Mary Blue" - look at any statue in a church.

    Everton certainly capitalised on the Irish links (and particularly with Shamrock Rovers) by signing several players from the League of Ireland both before and after the second world war. It's interesting to look at the two teams selected above - apart from Elisha Scott from Belfast I can't think of another Irish player at Liverpool until Steve Heighway in 1970. The Irish Everton team has at least 4 names from the late 40s-early 50s. There is no doubt that any distinction has been lost over the years and the number of Irish players at Anfield has been proof of this.

    It's a similar story in Manchester where City were always regarded as the Catholic club but when Sir Matt Busby (a catholic who had played for City) took over as manager that changed very quickly and we can see that impact with the number of United shirts on every street in Ireland at this stage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EastTerracer View Post
    It's a similar story in Manchester where City were always regarded as the Catholic club but when Sir Matt Busby (a catholic who had played for City) took over as manager that changed very quickly and we can see that impact with the number of United shirts on every street in Ireland at this stage.
    Playing Giles and Best probably had something to do with it too
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Playing Giles and Best probably had something to do with it too
    Absolutely true Tets, but that really just proves the point that religion was pretty meaningless when a team caught people's hearts. In fact the large Irish support for United pre-dates both Best and Giles. Jackie Carey was a big name player just after the war and captained United to the FA Cup in 1948. When the Busby Babes (including Billy Whelan) played Rovers in the European Cup in 1957 they drew a huge crowd to Dalymount. The Munich Air Disaster a few months later had a big impact in Ireland as well so it is no surprise that they became such a well-supported club.
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    With a bit of licence (using some guests from the six counties and a few uncapped players) we have teams above for Arsenal, Aston Villa, Barnet !, Birmingham, Celtic, Coventry, Everton, Fulham, Leeds, Liverpool, Mancester City, Manchester United, Millwall, Newcastle, Nottingham Forest, Shamrock Rovers, Sheffield Wednesday, Sunderland, Tottenham, West Brom, Wolves.

    Bohs should be easy to add (21 players to choose from).

    Using only players who were actually capped for the Republic of Ireland when they were playing for the club I have full teams for West Ham and Blackburn below but I was only able to get 11 outfield players at QPR and 10 players at Preston (incl. 2 goalkeepers)

    West Ham (5-3-2)
    Noel Dwyer

    Gary Breen
    Noel Cantwell
    Charle Turner (1938/1939)
    Tommy Moroney (1948-1951)
    Chris Hughton

    Frank O'Farrell
    Liam Brady
    Dan McGowan (1949)

    David Connolly
    David Kelly

    Blackburn (3-4-3)
    Alan Kelly Jr / Shay Given

    Jeff Kenna
    Kevin Moran
    Mick McGrath (1958-1965)

    Jason McAteer
    Steven Reid
    Keith Andrews
    Lee Carsely

    Damien Duff
    Frank Stapleton
    Andy McEvoy

    Subs: Joe Haverty, Eamon Rogers, Jonathan Douglas

    QPR (no keeper and loads of forwards)
    ?

    Ray Brady
    Terry Mancini
    Damien Delaney

    Gary Waddock
    Martin Rowlands
    Liam Miller

    John Byrne
    Don Givens
    Michael Robinson
    Paul McGee

    Sub: Mickey Walsh


    Preston (2 goalkeepers but only 8 outfield players 4-3-3)
    Alan Kelly Sr / Wayne Henderson

    John Anderson
    Mark Lawrenson
    Sean St. Ledger
    John 'Sonny' O'Neill (1960)

    Frank O'Farrell
    ?
    ?

    Paul McGee
    Ray Treacy
    Johnny Fullam
    Last edited by EastTerracer; 04/04/2010 at 3:22 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesfan View Post
    I was about to post a very similar team, would have had Niall Quinn up front with Stapleton though.

    This thread made be look at a great book from about 1990 called Green Gunners, the only goal keepers in it were Northern Irish, Jack McClelland and of course Pat Jennings. Two young guns who were tipped to be the next Irish Gunners were Pat Scully (who got one cap at Arsenal) and Kwame Ampadu! The author's All time Irish Arsenal XI (North and Republic Players) :

    Pat Jennings
    Pat Rice
    Sammy Nelson
    Terry Neill
    David O'Leary
    Terry Mancini
    Liam Brady
    Joe Haverty
    Jimmy Dunne
    Niall Quinn
    Frank Stapleton

    All so this guy had an interesting career http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paddy_Sloan

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    Quote Originally Posted by EastTerracer View Post
    Preston (2 goalkeepers but only 8 outfield players 4-3-3)
    Alan Kelly Sr / Wayne Henderson

    John Anderson
    Mark Lawrenson
    Sean St. Ledger
    John 'Sonny' O'Neill (1960)

    Frank O'Farrell
    ?
    ?

    Paul McGee
    Ray Treacy
    Johnny Fullam
    What about Eddie Nolan, currently on loan from Preston at Wednesday?
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    Crystal Palace - Got everything apart from a Goalkeeper:-

    Defenders - Paddy Mulligan, Curtis Fleming, Steve Staunton (on loan), Terry Phelan (on loan).

    Midfielders - Eddie McGoldrick, Ray Houghton, Mark Kennedy, Jerry Murphy.

    Forwards - Clinton Morrison, Alan Lee

    Sub - Steven Hunt, Sean Scannell (I know he hasn't got a full cap yet, but he'll get one soon)

    I can think of others who've got B caps or maybe under 21 caps, but I know the following never made a full appearance - Paddy McCarthy, Brian Launders, Tony Scully, Tony Folan, Rory Ginty, Henry Hughton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsFan View Post
    What about Eddie Nolan, currently on loan from Preston at Wednesday?
    Brian Mooney? I know he wasn't capped but rated v highly by PNE fans.

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    Stephen Elliott is there still. Were Judge or Treacy there at any point on loan?

    Edit: Treacy scored for PNE yesterday.
    Last edited by Stuttgart88; 11/04/2010 at 12:14 PM.

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    A few uncapped and unlikely to be capped at this stage here. There are probably some more from past era's which im unaware of, who would boost this line up, any suggestions welcome.



    Leicester City

    Conrad Logan

    Paddy McCarthy Alex Bruce Damien Delaney


    Alan Maybury Alan Sheehan


    Mark Yeates Clive Clark Jonathan Hunt



    David Kelly David Connolly


    Manager : Rob Kelly
    Bench: Paul Murphy (GK), Stephen Dawson, David Bell







    Northern Ireland

    So far Ive got, Neil Lennon, Gerry Taggart, Paul Ramsey, Keith Gillespie, Jimmy Quinn, Billy Kee, John O'Neil, Colin Hill.

    Manager : Martin O'Neil / Nigel Worthington


    Anyone know of another three N.I. guys who played for Leicester? a keeper would be handy.


    We could then all sit down together an select one decent 11 from both......... could we not?

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    Galway United

    Seamus McDonagh/Peter Thomas (one would have to be deployed outfield)

    Jeff Kenna
    Seamus Conneally (U21)
    Fran Brennan
    Paddy Mulligan

    Eamon Deacy
    John Herrick
    Jay O'Shea (U21)

    Paul McGee

    One man short !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Dunne View Post
    Galway United

    Seamus McDonagh/Peter Thomas (one would have to be deployed outfield)

    Jeff Kenna
    Seamus Conneally (U21)
    Fran Brennan
    Paddy Mulligan

    Eamon Deacy
    John Herrick
    Jay O'Shea (U21)

    Paul McGee

    One man short !

    Tony Folan has a few under 21 caps
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke View Post
    Northern Ireland

    So far Ive got, Neil Lennon, Gerry Taggart, Paul Ramsey, Keith Gillespie, Jimmy Quinn, Billy Kee, John O'Neil, Colin Hill.

    Manager : Martin O'Neil / Nigel Worthington


    Anyone know of another three N.I. guys who played for Leicester? a keeper would be handy.


    We could then all sit down together an select one decent 11 from both......... could we not?

    CTP
    http://nifootball.blogspot.com/2007/...onnection.html

    As can be seen from the above, 11 players have represented NI (Ireland) whilst with Leicester (Young Billy Kee, whilst a prospect, still has a huge way to go)

    Anyhow, none was a keeper (and about five of them played Centre Half!)

    Of those I have seen, Gerry Taggart was a particular favourite and Paul Ramsey always seemed quietly competent to me.

    And I guess Willie Cunningham may have been one of those players who seemed to rise to the occasion whenever he pulled on the green jersey:
    http://nifootball.blogspot.com/2006/...unningham.html

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