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    Thumbs up Limerick Pubs to Open on Good Friday

    http://www.independent.ie/national-n...y-2111278.html

    The thin end of the wedge? I sincerely hope so.

    I for one have always resented losing out on the third night of my weekend just to acknowledge someone elses religious inclinations.
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    ah it has to be the same everywhere
    sure they have just opened a can of worms now , its only i matter of time
    imo they should be open , if some publicans dont want to open for religious reasons thats their choice if you dont want to go to the pub on good friday thats your choice .
    and i certainly dont buy into "its the only day bar xmas that they close "
    they can close whatever day they wont but choose not too.

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    Pretty disgraceful stuff by the Vintners. I'd imagine an absolute ton of similar appeals from all over the country now; Inchicore pubs can use the Pats v Fingal match
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Pretty disgraceful stuff by the Vintners. I'd imagine an absolute ton of similar appeals from all over the country now; Inchicore pubs can use the Pats v Fingal match
    I wonder if this application was made by publicans in advance of a soccer or gaa match would the courts arrive at the same decision?
    While I agree that pubs should be allowed to open any day they like it still seems to me that the rugger fraternity get accommodated by the judiciary/establishment.
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    Just goes to show that Rugby is indeed a lesser sport. As apparently it can'tbe watched sober
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    Quote Originally Posted by Comic Book Guy View Post
    I wonder if this application was made by publicans in advance of a soccer or gaa match would the courts arrive at the same decision?
    While I agree that pubs should be allowed to open any day they like it still seems to me that the rugger fraternity get accommodated by the judiciary/establishment.
    As there's no major GAA taking place around now or Xmas day there's little scope to find out. If there wwere I'd say this daft rule would be in the dumpster long ago.

    The game's worth mega bucks to the local economy. There is, of course, a chance going forward that one of our qualifiers will now fall on a Good Friday as well. I hope publicans around lansdowne will be able to cite precedent. Though better for most if they just binned the thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie View Post
    The thin end of the wedge? I sincerely hope so.

    I for one have always resented losing out on the third night of my weekend just to acknowledge someone elses religious inclinations.
    Aye, we shouldn't be legislating based on one religion, and that includes Christmas too. There should be no restrictions on selling alcohol anyway - have it as a planning issue for residential areas.

    btw Dodge, I wouldn't slag rugby for having to be watched drunk until you've had to endure the 1st division sober! :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Pretty disgraceful stuff by the Vintners.
    Why?

    Seems like common sense to me - less than 5% of people in this county go to Mass these days - the days of the catholic church dictating things should be over. Pubs should be allowed to open whichever day they choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie View Post
    The game's worth mega bucks to the local economy.
    the €6m figure the publicans said they would lose equates to 1.33million pints or 51 per supporter attending the match! what rubbish.
    why people cant go for one day without entering a bar to buy a drink is beyond me

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    the €6m figure the publicans said they would lose equates to 1.33million pints or 51 per supporter attending the match! what rubbish.
    why people cant go for one day without entering a bar to buy a drink is beyond me
    Do you think only those attending the match will drink? Nobody in Limerick will head to the pub to watch it? And none of these people will have a bit of grub at the same time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by osarusan View Post
    Do you think only those attending the match will drink? Nobody in Limerick will head to the pub to watch it? And none of these people will have a bit of grub at the same time?
    ok. lets say a highly unlikely 100,000 went to the pubs that would still mean each would have 13 pints! i attend about 10 thomand park matches a season and the number of pubs in the area that serve food on match day could be counted on one hand

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    ok. lets say a highly unlikely 100,000 went to the pubs that would still mean each would have 13 pints! i attend about 10 thomand park matches a season and the number of pubs in the area that serve food on match day could be counted on one hand
    Don't get me wrong. I fully agree that publicans will exaggerate the extent to which the local economy will benefit / suffer.

    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    the €6m figure the publicans said they would lose equates to 1.33million pints or 51 per supporter attending the match! what rubbish.
    That statistic is indeed rubbish. But you made it up, not them.

    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    why people cant go for one day without entering a bar to buy a drink is beyond me
    People can go for a day without entering a pub and having a drink. That is clearly not what the whole debate is about. And if I'm to decide not to have a drink today, or that I will have a drink, that choice should be mine, not some stupid remnant of religious power.

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    Damn, I was really hoping someone would play the religious card so I could throw out my prepared line about banning alcohol sales during Ramadan!

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    Quote Originally Posted by osarusan View Post
    That statistic is indeed rubbish. But you made it up, not them.
    no i didn’t…

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0315/limerick.html

    Quote Originally Posted by osarusan View Post
    People can go for a day without entering a pub and having a drink. That is clearly not what the whole debate is about. And if I'm to decide not to have a drink today, or that I will have a drink, that choice should be mine, not some stupid remnant of religious power.
    but you’ll take the public hol that comes with “the stupid remnant of religious power”. it’s the courts that set the license laws not the church

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    Quote Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid View Post
    less than 5% of people in this county go to Mass these days
    65% according to the Irish Times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid View Post
    Why?

    Seems like common sense to me - less than 5% of people in this county go to Mass these days - the days of the catholic church dictating things should be over. Pubs should be allowed to open whichever day they choose.
    I agree whole heartedly. The problem is that they wanted to change the law for one day, in one city. Either its for all, or its for none.

    I personally think there should be no limit on the hours pubs and clubs should open.

    What I disagree with is the blackmailing of the authorities over one 2 hour event, and the precedent that sets. Seriously, why couldn't Pubs in Inchicore claim that as they'll be hosting a sporting event thats on TV that night (and a crowd of say 3,000) that th game is worth €1million to the "local economy"
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post

    I've already agreed that publicans will exaggerate the figure to make it more likely that the exemption will be granted.

    However, you decided to interpret the 6 million euro figure as 51 pints per spectator at the match. That's the part I meant was rubbish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osarusan View Post
    I've already agreed that publicans will exaggerate the figure to make it more likely that the exemption will be granted.

    However, you decided to interpret the 6 million euro figure as 51 pints per spectator at the match. That's the part I meant was rubbish.
    In fairness, if we're talking about ridiculous, the €6m figure is so ridiculous as to negate any sensible discussion. The calculation by jbyrne shows how ridiculous it is.

    This court decision shows the absurdity of the law, as do the existing exemptions for Irish rail, hotels, etc. and are yet another anachronistic throwback that we need to stop clinging to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    no i didn’t…

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0315/limerick.html



    but you’ll take the public hol that comes with “the stupid remnant of religious power”. it’s the courts that set the license laws not the church
    What public holiday? I work in the EDUCATION system and I still have work on GF. God doesn't grant public holidays. We do collectively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    but you’ll take the public hol that comes with “the stupid remnant of religious power”. it’s the courts that set the license laws not the church
    Different arguement as the public holiday facilitates people going to mass and other such activities. I've no problem with that facilitation. That doesn't change the facts of the imposition of their norms on the rest of the state.

    It's nonsense anyway - the exemptions to alcohol are already there (as already mentioned) and the shops are open, you can buy meat (which a good catholic also wouldn't consume) so why not alcohol?
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