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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Did they come to any sort of conclusion?

    (Though I don't expect much from any TV3 show)
    TV3 draws only two conclusions:

    1. Society is fecked. We're all going to be killed in our beds.
    2. Boobs.
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    I agree with at least half of those conclusions
    Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lep View Post
    I think its sad that SOME so called fans of our league would love to see another league club fold and not succeed.
    Most people here support their club, not the league.
    Lets redefine what it means to heal

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    In saying that, do you mean that most support their clubs and not the league that they are in ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFShels View Post
    Most people here support their club, not the league.
    Appreciate that but if there were no other clubs there would be no league for their club to play in ! personally I support bohs 100% but hope for a successfull league and accordingly don't like to see any club(s) "go under".

    Any fan of any LOI club can surely empathise with fans of a club going under ? There but for the grace of God.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFShels View Post
    Most people here support their club, not the league.
    That certainly isn't the impression I get about posters on here.

    I think most fans support their own club first, obviously, but also dislike the negative criticism the LOI gets as a result of other clubs' actions. I'd say the vast majority on here want to see a healthy LOI with healthy clubs.

    Actually I think the whole "I support my club, not the league" line is just crap that posters think allows them to make stupid attacks on other clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFShels View Post
    Most people here support their club, not the league.
    I don't think that'd be correct. Some people would, but nowhere near most, I'd say.

    And supporting the league, in my opinion, means not wanting to see clubs so clearly set themselves up for such a big, bad-news-worthy, fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    And supporting the league, in my opinion, means not wanting to see clubs so clearly set themselves up for such a big, bad-news-worthy, fall.
    Yeah, most want to see a sustainable league. As things stand, there is no way the current model of SF is sustainable, no matter how people try and dress it up. At this stage the league is in a lose lose - SF carry on inflating wages by unsustainable spending, or they crash and burn in a blaze of negative publicity. It should never have got to this point, but then we're back to "licencing" that it did.
    If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macy View Post
    Yeah, most want to see a sustainable league. As things stand, there is no way the current model of SF is sustainable, no matter how people try and dress it up. At this stage the league is in a lose lose - SF carry on inflating wages by unsustainable spending, or they crash and burn in a blaze of negative publicity. It should never have got to this point, but then we're back to "licencing" that it did.
    but Sporting Fingal have not breached any of the licencing criteria - I have never even heard it suggested that they did. I don't see how licencing can exclude one large benifactor as this would rule out most clubs (for example I doubt St Pats could have sustained losses in last few years but for one benefactor).
    as said before I hope SF are preparing for a "soft landing" or have alternative funding sources in place if/when the Gannon money ceases.
    Incidentally because someone goes into NAMA does not mean they are broke (although not a good sign ). I think Gannon (or any other benefactor) can write the investment off against tax so as long as his company(s) generates a tax liability SF will probobly continue to benifit.

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    Don't think there's any tax breaks available for investing in a sports club. Unless they have charitable status which I would doubt.
    Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longfordian View Post
    Don't think there's any tax breaks available for investing in a sports club. Unless they have charitable status which I would doubt.
    I honestly don't know (long while since I worked in Revenue) but thought there was some provision for writing it off against tax - but could be wrong.

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    UCD AFC is a registered charity. I know we announce that there's tax breaks for things like sponsorsing a table at the club dinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post
    but Sporting Fingal have not breached any of the licencing criteria - I have never even heard it suggested that they did. I don't see how licencing can exclude one large benifactor as this would rule out most clubs (for example I doubt St Pats could have sustained losses in last few years but for one benefactor).
    I'm not suggesting they breached licensing; just pointing out it's a flaw of the system. There have been a number of examples in recent seasons where a benefactor has pulled the plug and left a club in trouble mid season. Has anything been done to fill that gap in the licencing system?

    Imo, if a club is so reliant on benefactor, there should be an upfront bond paid to the league, which can be released back to the club throughout the season. In that case, the worst case scenario is players, staff and club see out the season at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lep View Post
    Im not gonna get into an argument of whether Fingal is a county or not. I live in County Fingal thats all that matters. If you dont think its a county then so be it.
    Sorry to drag this up again but as someone from Swords are you trying to tell me I'm from County Fingal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lep View Post
    By no means do i feel hard done by I didnt expect any diffrent response from a shells fan to be honest. Where are you going with this millwall attitude ?
    I think its sad that SOME so called fans of our league would love to see another league club fold and not succeed. The truth is and what is important Sporting Fingal are here and will be here for another while yet .
    Ah come on man. I even said that being a Shels fan will automatically make me not like ye. That's a given. And long may a sustainable rivalry remain.

    The hard-done-by attitude is there to be seen. I've yet to see much positivity emanating from Fingal fans tbh. And if there's positivity out there then let's see it.

    I just think that the wider community of LOI fans are tired of the negativity and we want to see this league finally strengthen. But yet again it seems that the annual crisis is imminent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GalwayRed View Post
    Sorry to drag this up again but as someone from Swords are you trying to tell me I'm from County Fingal?
    Administratively speaking... technically you are. But screw technicalities. Culturally you're a Dub and proud!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GalwayRed View Post
    Sorry to drag this up again but as someone from Swords are you trying to tell me I'm from County Fingal?
    you Fingallions are so weird man.
    I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkStu View Post
    you Fingallions are so weird man.
    Fingwegians, surely?
    If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkStu View Post
    you Fingallions are so weird man.
    The ignorance. Fingallians is spelt with an a

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    It's perfectly acceptable for one man to pump money into a club but the worry here is that this guy is going to lose everything he has when NAMA come knocking.
    How will you bridge the 15K per week gap after his assets are frozen?

    Has he already given the 2010 money to Fingal?
    If so that's fine but we'll have the same problem in 2011 or however long it takes for NAMA to act
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